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  • What do you think is the best course of action to address cult movements, either as a whole or on an individual level?

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  • People will always seek to understand the world and find meaning. it’s not something you can dismiss as irrelevant. If the concern is pseudoscience, the answer isn’t rejection but discernment. Buddhist philosophy and cognitive science, for instance, offer frameworks that are both rigorous and open to examination. Worth considering before reducing the conversation to absolutes.

  • What do you think is the best course of action to address cult movements, either as a whole or on an individual level?

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  • Individual level, educate yourself and learn compassion:

    https://youarenotsosmart.com/2022/06/27/yanss-236-how-minds-change/

    https://www.cnvc.org/

    https://www.streetepistemology.com/

    https://pastebin.com/ZHhS044M

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Read_a_Book because we have a lot of people who really think they know more about things than they do, based purely on social media posts and sensationalized news. "bAn ALl ReLIGIOnS" is such a highschool tier take that speaks to incredibly poor understanding of human culture, society, philosophy and psychology. Religion is just organized and political spirituality. And we need things that spirituality can offer, and materialism (capitalism) has nearly robbed us of it. And spiritual does NOT have to fucking mean believing in some skydaddy, it can just mean being able to STOP and be with all of life, as it is, within any given moment. You can frame it with the awe of quantum fucking mechanics if you want. Go watch Carl Sagan at the very least. Christianity had one fucking job and they couldn't have failed more catastrophically... But I digress... Though understanding the difference between RELIGION and SPIRITUALITY (and what NEEDS spirituality fulfills) would go a long way in guarding against cults.

    A lot of the time dealing with cults or cult-like communities requires you to do things that go against your every impulse.

    Respect your own boundaries but keep a door open provided your boundaries are respected.

    Do not belittle the people in the cult. Do not demonize. I CANNOT emphasize that part enough. If you can't stop yourself, you best avoid these situations because you will only make it worse.

    Actively seek to understand what the person is getting out of the cult (usually it's basic social acceptance - which is exactly why vilifying cult members only works in the cult's favor - see MAGA). If they believe they are getting some spiritual need fulfilled, you better have really good understanding of what that need is before you try to talk about it. Read the relevant philosophy and so on. There are no ideas in the world that can't be twisted into a cult rhetoric.

    Cults chiefly work by predating on people who feel like they aren't HEARD or SEEN by others. Their experiences are dismissed or straight up ridiculed. This seems to be an impossible pill for some people to swallow and they seem to legitimately think that calling people idiots will surely make them feel bad and get back in the route of sanity Spoilers: it just makes them run right into the welcoming arms of the cult's spokespeople who shower them with (seemingly) unconditional love and validation.

    Once the cult is their only social circle, it's basically impossible to extract them. Unless you are willing to see them COMPASSIONATELY as basic humans whose behavior is ultimately dictated by very basic needs for human connection, you will have no hope of reaching them.

    Most people make the mistake of thinking that if they can just communicate some very smart and clever narrative to the people in the cult, they will be able to change their minds. But what that tends to accomplish is that you just put the person on the defensive. It's actually even worse if you manage to get through to their intellectual faculty because then you have effectively demolished some faith-based thing that they have but you are offering nothing in return. Instead all they have now is feeling like they are an idiot and YOU know it. But they can still run back to the cult and stick around on principle. So all you did was make them dig their heels in, because now they KNOW all the rest of the world is able to prove that they are stupid and nobody wants to feel that. Basically in the cult they will have all their social contacts, support network, possibly even their financial security. Few people are going to choose feeling stupid, alone and destitute over that.

    Unfortunately most people will jump at the chance to tell another person that their beliefs are stupid. And even more so they will jump at the chance to tell another person that they are morally inferior.

  • [2025] Roadmap

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  • Oh brilliant, thank you!

  • [2025] Roadmap

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  • Can you add https://crazypeople.online/ to instances please?

    Or can I add it somehow?

    Or is it some hive of scum and villainy everyone loathes? I don't follow instance drama too closely but I'm starting to realize there's quite a bit of it.

  • 196 @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Paying the toll, I came here by accident

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  • If Fairphone doesn't faceplant by then, it'll be my next phone in a few years.

  • Boards of Canada "Olson" on a 1959 PDP-1 Computer

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  • Love those sounds!

  • Lasagnaius

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  • Protein Barius

  • A.I. Video Generators Are Now So Good You Can No Longer Trust Your Eyes

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  • I'm just holding out minor hope that people finally get with the program and realize the value of reputable news organizations and plain old grapevine again. Leave internet for nerds.

  • Which one and why?

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  • Looking to introduce the spoon thing for non-autistics too eh?

  • Infinite

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  • Comic Strips @lemmy.world
    noretus @sopuli.xyz

    Will McPhail - Triangle

  • We are all going through something

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  • Unironically I'm all for this. So long as you're not harming others, please do work through your stuff with whatever weirdness you want.

  • Enthusiasts bond twelve 56K modems together to set dial-up broadband records — a dozen screeching boxes achieve record 668 kbps download speeds

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  • US American here. I am super impressed with Mistral's Le Chat and nowadays vastly prefer it over Open AI's Chat GPT and Claude AI.

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  • I like it too. Been using it just for general life organizing stuff - kinda like goblin.tools but I like that I can just type to it normally instead of having to use an interface. Took some fiddling with the agents and files and things like that to get it to function as I like - but I can get it to function as I like which puts it above Gemini for me. I would kinda like voice activation and audio output though so I don't have to have my eyes on the screen at all times.

  • Enthusiasts bond twelve 56K modems together to set dial-up broadband records — a dozen screeching boxes achieve record 668 kbps download speeds

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  • Are there actually any good mobile games?

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  • Alto's Adventure. One of those simple is powerful games. Though it can get really frustrating as there definitely are situations where the game just decides that actually, you're done.

  • Please contact support

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  • Correct.

  • Please contact support

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  • Joke is that I'm actually the techy woman.

  • Trump’s Tylenol announcement incurs furious backlash: ‘This is yet more utter rubbish’

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  • So what about them Epstein files?

  • Please contact support

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  • It doesn't really feel any better once you know that it's an empty pleasantry they don't really care to have an answer to.

  • memes @lemmy.world
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    Please contact support

  • Buy European @feddit.uk
    noretus @sopuli.xyz

    The difficulty around finding legitimate European brans (that aren't just fronts for Chinese products)