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islamiste, car les dernières théocraties le sont, gloire à Dieu

démocratie directe, évidemment, qu'Athènes continue d'inspirer

r\etardataire(, depuis plus de 12 ans), principal coupable(, yay).Si tou.te.s(>95%) les milliardaires avaient fait autant pour le progrès techno-scientifique qu'E.Musk, alors je ne serais pas communiste(, critics : surplus value, lucrative properties, negative externalities, oligarchic influence, neo-colonialism)

https://github.com/dessalines/essays but also, that's an interesting system, close to solidproject.org → Nostr id : npub17gtj29ndk2fpx7ghey62yhg9fj05na0wzz0un9l3d0xmrfcz30fsxmktfh

alts : https://lemmygrad.ml/u/soumerd_retardataire, https://lemmygrad.ml/u/sousmerde_rtrdataire

Speaking online is a waste of time, my paranoia stupidly telling me it wasn't pointless, silly me. Off.

  • Surgery would be done by vote.

    As i said above, « [Choosing t]he solution is often a moral choice, while its implementation is often a technical one »We ought to listen to experts obviously, who else would we be listening to apart from them, but we should be the ones deciding, not them, and we'll agree with them whenever the experts of both sides agree with each other because it's so obvious, but we'll be the ones deciding between both sides in the case of disagreement, after all we're the ones impacted from their our decisions.

    There’s also zero reason to believe that there would be no corruption in such a system.

    You can't corrupt a whole population is what i'm saying, only individuals/decision-makers.(You can certainly still manipulate a whole population for your own personal benefits, in which case journalists ought to read the public contracts and verify stuff in order to reveal scandals)


    But ok, thanks for taking the time to exchange with me :) 👍

  • As you want, i won't bring you into a multi-hours debate, but i.m.o. :

    China has plenty of diversity across provinces

    Yes, more than in the u.s., but less than in a confederation of city-states with their own constitution(, and a small common set of base laws throughout the confederation).

    Doing a referendum across 10 millions people makes a lot less sense because those people likely don’t have a lot of overlapping concerns in most cases.

    Local/Municipal referendums for local decisions(, or even more wide-ranging as Venezuela and other socialist countries showed with their communal councils that vote on the budget and the rest).National referendums for decisions that affect everyone.I may have misunderstood your point here, so forgive me in advance.

    Do you need more buses, or more roads, or LRT, or subways, or all of the above.

    I'm convinced that hearing the different sides of this debate(, in a municipal assembly here,) would be enough for citizens to make the decision.You're convinced that citizens wouldn't be able to make the correct decision.How can we know who's right here ?

    At least there wouldn't be corruption by building companies that divert millions each year for relatively useless construction projects whose main purpose is enriching themselves(, private-public partnerships likely are more often a scam in capitalist-owned countries than in the p.r.c.).I've got in mind one of the rare examples of direct democracy in a very small village in France(, a few hundred inhabitants, called Ménil-la-Horgne), where they ended up building a small dam to store their energy. That's a real-world example in which they successfully came around together on a solution to diminish their carbon emissions, after weighing the different alternatives.And, again, it doesn't take that much time, for Ménil-la-Horgne i.i.r.c. it was something like four or six 3-hour reunions per year(, i don't remember exactly but it was in that range, perhaps less).And that's scalable for larger cities, e.g. by organizing it into districts(, and after all Athens was quite large already). Another option would be to leave the vote to citizens drawn by lot, forming a mini-society representative of the other citizens, as long as they're not manipulated of course, and eventually afterwards a confirmation of their decision through referendum.

    (Also, it's my belief that in our current system, our "leaders" and deputies shouldn't be paid at all(, or only the minimum to survive whenever their bank account force us to make an exemption). It's unbelievable that some are here for the money or power, wtf frankly, they should be here for ideals and nothing else)

  • These were tiny in comparison to any modern economy.

    I'm in favor of (the ideological/conceptual wealth brought by )diversity, and hence for a confederation of city-states, but large states wouldn't be a problem, as California or Switzerland showed.Doing referendums for 100.000 people isn't more difficult than doing it for 10 millions.

    You want subject experts to make informed decisions

    That's a problem, because experts are chosen by the power in place, who determines what orthodoxy should be if not the citizens ?The solution is often a moral choice, while its implementation is often a technical one(, so we could leave the implementation to them).And of course citizens will make mistakes, just like our "leaders" make mistakes, and experts(, e.g. economists,) disagree with each other.We should take measurements before//after the law to evaluate if it changed things as the experts promised the citizens it would(, ideally with small scale tests prior to the referendum), and if it doesn't then i.m.o. that law should be automatically cancelled(, or a new referendum and debate should take place).

    So, instead of experts deciding for us, what we should want is experts from both sides of the debate/referendum(, with an equal airtime of course), and citizens watching/reading their debates(, i'd prefer written exchanges to an improvised time-limited verbal sparring), who'd then vote based on these debates by researchers/engineers/experts.It's much safer against abuses of power.

    Yes, citizens have other things to do than voting every weekend and knowing everything, but we don't need to produce as many laws as nowadays(, we have so much more of them than, e.g., in the 50s, is that really necessary ?), so we could only vote for important stuff, which only happens a few times a year.And if we imitate Athens, then only citizens can enact new laws, it's citizen-initiated and there are no leaders(, the preparation of the laws being made by a small assembly selected by lot, free from interferences and evaluated afterwards).

    Incidentally, this is basically how Chinese model works today. There are broad public surveys to identify key issues the public is concerned about, and then five year plans are made by experts to tackle these problems.

    👍, it's obviously not a coincidence if most citizens from capitalist-owned countries are unable to explain how democracy in socialist states worked/works.

    Personally, I wouldn't call worker owned cooperatives a form of anarchy.

    Well, it's a gradient as i succinctly developed here, and we'll perhaps indeed never get rid of the hierarchy between the enterprise and the society it is supposed to serve.

  • Yeah, it was a political anarchy for men who weren't slaves. Still more anarchic than nowadays, and inspiring.

    Huawei also isn't a "pure" cooperative, Frédéric Laloux listed some examples and made this scale if you're interested : https://reinventingorganizationswiki.com/en/theory/green-paradigm-and-organizations

    Anyway, i'm not here to "clash" with lemmygrad users, if we could avoid that it'd be great, and i'm procrastinating currently so this will probably be my last comment in this thread. I simply posted here because you have the most subscribers for /c/communism out of all instances.

  • It's a vast question, and i could defend both sides since i agree with you, but consider that the only direct democracies to have existed were the greatest society in the Antiquity(, Athens and other greek city-states), and in a less pure way the italian city-states that initiated the Renaissance(, Venise, Florence, ...), what a coincidence that the only examples available led to the greatest cities(, as if God or at least Nature supported that), apparently able to defend themselves from external&internal threats.And direct democracies through sortition are a political anarchy, mainly preoccupied with protecting the 99% from the abuses of power of the 1%, whose wealth is illegitimate as you know.

    Anarchy in the workplace would be workers-owned cooperatives, and there as well we have different degrees of purity, but also enough example of success stories(, e.g. Huawei or the relatively large percentage of cooperatives in socialist states through different forms).

    So while i agree with your criticisms(, it's indeed more difficult/dangerous to opt for anarchism, especially in its purest form), i'd be less categorical about the conclusions(, since democratic societies were able to wage wars, and workers-owned companies were able to compete).

    (It's kinda out-of-topic, but i also think that the post-1991 east of Berlin/Europe didn't switch back to socialism because they previously had ~100% of a public press which became in a few years ~100% privately owned(, like other public enterprises), e.g. Eltsin would have never ever been reelected without them, by far. Well, workers-owned medias would have been preferable if they decided to ditch public-owned medias.)

  • Communism @lemmygrad.ml

    A better world is possible

  • Cuba @lemmy.ml

    #1 terrorist country

  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    One year ago, Hossam Shabat was murdered by Israel

  • Yeah, watch as we(sterners) stay silent about the new bolivian dictatorship under Rodrigo Paz, as he governs through decrees and makes ineligible 80% of the candidates(, 26.000 out of 34.000, with almost no substitution), something unseen under the MAS, who didn't even need a second turn to win the 2020 elections, and would have won in 2025 as well without a suspicious(, fearful of the US ?,) betrayal of Luis Arce. Their victory in these subnational elections was assured, especially following the recent mass protests against Rodrigo Paz.This article doesn't mention the mass invalidation and its causes, nor that they put Luis Arce in jail and are trying to do the same for Evo Morales.

    That's what happens once you allow the rent-seekers to take power(, Étienne Chouard has a better solution to be safeguarded from abuses of power), and what will happen to Venezuela as well(, at least Venezuela's constitution has the art.72 along with its participatory democracy, even if it didn't protect them from sanctions), with a complicit silence of the capitalist-owned press, who'd have immediately denounced it if Evo Morales ever did something similar, and there will obviously not be any sanction, bombing, or western-backed coup in order to restore democracy and liberty.And it's not only in Bolivia.


    So, what's their alternative then, armed struggle ? They should just give up on their lives and sacrifice it in order to attempt taking back control ?Rodrigo "Paz" banned their medias, and now they can't even participate in a biased election, let us applaud.


    It's still a defeat compared to the past, but i feared worse(, even if the MAS is indeed destroyed) https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecciones_subnacionales_de_Bolivia_de_2026I unfortunately expect more manipulations from him in regard to his first 6 months, in order to avoid a defeat in 2030. There should be the possibility of a citizen-initiated recall referendum in every country, and no-one should ever govern through decrees...And i maintain that if he was honest then he should have been more lenient by only invalidating at most 10% of the worst candidacies, as a progressive warning for the future, the lack of information never posed a problem in the past(, e.g. instead of banning Andrónico Rodríguez and other deputies from participating because they were in La Paz they could have had the same exception as usual).

  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    United Nations experts condemned the accelerating pace of ethnic cleansing and annexation carried out by Israel

    www.ohchr.org /en/press-releases/2026/03/state-backed-terror-squads-forefront-israels-ethnic-cleansing-and-annexation
  • Well, Călin Georgescu was forbidden from participating in the 2025 elections despite winning the first round, and Nicușor Dan ended up being the romanian president.

    Moldova successively banned the Șor Party in June 2023, the Chance Party in November 2023, the Victory Bloc in 2024, and the Heart of Moldova in September 2025, but as for Ecuador you'll never hear about that !« the pro-Russian Patriotic Electoral Bloc has 26.6%. The Russia-friendly Alternativa Bloc stood at 8.6% and the populist Our Party — which wants "balanced foreign policy" between East and West — has 6.3% », they also banned 18 Russian-language television channels and over 60 internet resources, and restricted access to opposition politicians' channels on social media and internet platforms, while pro-western media operate in Moldova without restrictions to manipulate the votes.

    Hungary is under sanctions.

    Ukraine overthrew Yanukovych with the help of the west, and already started after 2004 to "promote the ukrainian language" by enforcing subtitles, imposing ukrainian in the administration(, reverted in 2012 with Yanukovych), having more and more conflicts with Russia, promoting Stepan Bandera and others, they also launched a witch hunt against their anti-e.u. opponents(, e.g. Borys Kolesnykov). In Moldova, Ilan Shor and others were also attacked before 2014 under what may have been false pretenses.

    In Estonia, they went even further by banning 6.1% of their population from voting.In Latvia, the Harmony party was the main force of opposition but has now virtually disappeared after 2022, even if their leader Nils Ušakovs was already accused of corruption in 2019. And many diverse things against pro-russians

    In Bulgaria, they tried to ban the Vazrazhdane party but ended up failing, so it's now the third political party of the country.It is good to know that with the Magnitsky Act, the u.s. can just ban pro-russian political candidates from participating. They sanctioned Delyan Peevski and Vasil Bozhkov in 2021, as well as Vladislav Goranov in 2023.The Magnitsky act was used in other countries of the eastern bloc as well : Aleksandar Vulin in Serbia in 2023, Milorad Dodik in Bosnia from 2022 to 2024, Antal Rogán in Hungary in 2025, Vakhtang Gomelaur in Georgia in 2024, ...

    Slovenia

    We'll only hear about, e.g., Georgia or Hungary, or other opponents, exaggerating their misdeeds while ignoring ours


    Pro-Russia Narek Karapetyan in Armenia as well


    In New Caledonia, France just closed 48 polling stations out of 56, greatly complicating the votes for the poorest part of the population(, usually pro-independence). I'm from France and that's one more thing not known.

  • World News @lemmy.ml

    Ecuador's dictator Daniel Noboa just banned the main opposition(, Rafael Correa's party,) from participating in the next local elections

  • Most people instead buy pre-hung doors.

    Bad example against reparation i.m.o. since when the hinge break they don't buy a new door(whole), but swap the broken hinge(part) for a new one.Good example in the case of DIY though, since the hassle may not be worth the time spent.

    most components can't be so easily replaced.

    Every module in my computer, mouse, keyboard, screen, or, i.d.k., lamp torch, can be easily replaced with a screwdriver.Even phones could be made easy to open. If you have a counter-example in mind to « unless when the part is difficult to access, which doesn't seem to be an engineering necessity in most cases ? » written above, then i'm interested.

    Even if you have access to spare parts, it takes a lot of time to repair something even as simple as a radio.

    But opening it and swapping the spare part(, well, welding it back then,) took less than 5mns.What took a long time was opening it without breaking anything since it was fragile, with parts glued together. Radios were more complex than nowadays.And they didn't stop at swapping the spare part apparently, but ran a full diagnostic because other parts aged as well and, e.g., a shorted transistor could overheat a transformer.To me, it seems like asking for an individual to repair his watch himself by getting a spare part, these are the kind of situations that should be done by pros. But then even if it takes many hours we're not talking about a 20€ product, so it's usually worth it to repair instead of buying a new one(, which is why people repaired them instead of buying new ones).Other examples could include houses or cars, which are repaired because buying new ones wouldn't be worth it.

    But the example of the radio still goes in my direction, because back then it was difficult to swap the spare parts and yet people still went through the trouble of repairing it.How much more would it then be pertinent for objects that are thrown away while a pro could easily swap the spare part in 5mns(, or an individual do it h·er·im·self).The problem i.m.o. is that there's no repair·wo·man and no spare parts at a cheap price with close warehouses, so it's not profitable/widespread.You're saying that most objects couldn't have their parts easily swapped while i'm saying that most could(, at least we agree that some can&can't)

    Unless you can automate the entire repair process, increased automation will make us more likely to throw things away.

    I also disagree that more human labor would be required to swap a part than to build the whole product 🤷I even think that less human labor would be required to swap a part than to build it.Many humans are involved with the production process, from mining to selling.And if you were thinking in terms of advanced robots taking human jobs, then they'd eventually be able to do simple reparation as well(, and more&more complex over time).(Edit : and if we could have said that «this automaton will create 150 circuit boards of this particular model every model, while the previous generation only made 50/h», we can also say that «this automaton will create 150 different kind of circuit board, while the previous generation could only create 50», if that's part of the counter-argument)

    And worse, automation makes it easier just to start from scratch.

    Not easier to build the whole than the part

    You can always take a broken device, throw it in a crucible with a mountain of other broken devices, and just melt the whole lot down.

    Not really :)But you could strip its parts yes, that’d be the most sensical option if you can't repair it.

  • Sure, i'm optimistic(, but it'd make so much more sense than throwing away)

    It's always going to be easier to automate the production of goods than the repair of goods.

    We can automate the production of spare parts.And swapping a part for another is quick and can usually be done by the consumer(, or by a pro if it's more complex).Repairing a part is hard, but swapping it is usually easy, unless when the part is difficult to access which doesn't seem to be an engineering necessity in most cases ?

  • I looked into buying a DIY kit for making a mouse recently in order to easily repair it(, and eventually improve/customize it i.d.k., at least understand it better), but there's not much choice so i gave up and bought one at 30€.

    you often find it is made of parts you can replace

    But good luck to find these parts, they have a serial number but from my experience with a computer screen, the circuit board is really expensive and takes a long time to ship, so they told me to just buy a new screen(, it was only one of its ~4 circuit boards, and a small component of it furthemore, but everything was thrown out).That's probably why most objects are just thrown away and people don't even attempt to repair them(, if it was cheaper that practice would probably be more widespread)

    I have repaired my computer mouse recently

    You opened it and found a spare part online for a cheap enough price ?It must be a big(&unusual?) brand if they sell parts for their mouse online.

    now they're like over $200

    I'd have to look at the specs to see if the difference with a $40 mouse is worth paying 5 times more 🤷

  • Wow

    It also reminds me that it was apparently cheaper to destroy most of the military equipment when leaving Afghanistan than rapatriating it.

  • Industry and automation made production way more cost efficient

    It should still be cheaper to build a new part(, and change that part,) than a new whole(, and buy that whole).

    And i.d.k. if it's the only reason for the low prices : it's cheaper for westerners to buy from non-westerners(, including mines or actions), and conversely.Repairing is done locally(, otherwise the transport would take too long), and ends up being more expensive than buying new products made externally.Our productivity may be higher[1], even if we're deindustrialized, but their minimum wage is way less than ours.[1] : I.m.o., even more obviously when considering that we're in the finance sector, we may reverse things when saying that a high productivity explains the difference in living standards : it's the difference in living standards and GDP that inflates the productivity.Since productivity∝GDP, then countries with a high GDP will have a high productivity.And a country that increased its GDP(, e.g. through increasing its minimum wage perhaps,) would hence increase its productivity. Just an uninformed thought on my part, i.d.k. honestly.

    If i keep the example of the computer mouse, it couldn't cost 20€ if it was produced locally, if only because it takes much more than 2 cumulated hours to build one, at a minimum wage of 10€/h.Conversely though, it'd mean that it'd be very expensive for a non-westerner to buy products made in the west, which is the case, but we can still manage to sell them because we have a monopoly on new technologies(, with e.g. Japan or South Korea, but then again their minimum wage is high as well so it's the same remark), such as planes or softwares.

  • Who knows, 50 years ?

    I don't think we'll continue like that, it can't make sense for too long that buying a new one is cheaper than repairing an old one. I suppose.

  • Showerthoughts @lemmy.world

    In the future, it will be considered unbelievable that repairing a product used to be more expensive than buying a new one

  • I'd be curious to hear their explanation as to why the Tiktok "addictive" system of switching from one video to the other is more addictive than YT shorts who does the same(, or Instagram reels, switching videos on 𝕏 or Facebook, Vine back then, ...).For now, their arguments are : infinite scroll and push notifications(, present on every social media), autoplay, recommandations, ...

    This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

    Tiktok is being accused of using the same system as other social platforms, sure we believe that our arguments are more coherent, or everyone knows that they're just lazy excuses, and nobody cares.Yeah, it's probably that we gave up on democracy, and nobody with power cares about Tiktok.

    Also, our french president keeps repeating over and over the lie that using Tiktok leads you to salafist content after 3-4 videos, and no-one stops him.I know for a fact that it's false since almost half of my use of Tiktok was for islamist content(, ~50-100h over ~3 years), and i never once met salafist content(, there was Shahid Bolsen that was fiercely anti-imperialist, and he was pro-Sahel countries, that's the worst i found, but i suppose that the trick is that extremism is relative ; i believe that the Quran should be interpreted in its historical context and show(ed) a path, but most literalists will be frowned upon by 'most atheists'/'any islamophobes').I do recognize that anti-imperialist[1], communist, and islamist content appears more often on Tiktok than YT Shorts, but i.m.o. it's because Tiktok doesn't censor as much as YT Shorts, and not because it promotes such content.They probably already interfered in Google results, and intend to interfere in l.l.m. results as well, masks off right ?

    He also said a few times that the chinese Tiktok is mostly focused on educative content while our Tiktok is focused on entertainment, but just hope that nobody will verify to see that there is everything on both platforms and it depends on the user choices.It's just like when they're claiming that social media use will modify the shape of our brain. Now, they claim that violent games may make people violent(, despite the experiment of the last 30 years, it's violent people that choose violent games, boomers). That's quite certainly a throwaway issue put forward in order to make a concession later though.I spent a lot of time as a teenager on loup.org and it helped in improving my writing&social skills, most americans had so many great experiences with Club Penguin that it still exists today, even if some pedophiles were indeed there, but let's not throw the baby with the bathwater. Anyway, we just use this pretext as an excuse to regulate our internet.

    They can just say what they want unchallenged, i'd like to see once a debate with someone knowledgeable really disagreeing with him.And when they do have a contradictory debate, then they'll just end up disagreeing after exchanging arguments for an hour(, sometimes less). Lock them together in a room for 1-2 days until they agree with each other. I'd like to see a debate ending with "can i invite you to discuss it further this evening at a table ?", they have five years between each election and won't spend most of their time talking with each other.Or, if they're truly so busy, then force them to exchange public letters(, with the help of assistants), so that they can have the time to think more deeply about 'their own'&'the opposite' arguments.It seems that they'll instead decide something, advance a few valid arguments(, without any counter-arguments), and we just roll with it. At least, i don't see a contradictory debate(, deputies aren't really debating, and i don't see how they could, so each one is just making a speech, and often have voting instructions by their party), which would be useless since we're not deciding anyway, so continue like that...

    [1] : I never said that it doesn't mean being anti-France : one could have been against royalism when France was a kingdom, or slavery when it was allowed, would it have been being anti-France ? Now, some people are against imperialism/hegemony. There are (+) and (-) to most things, and that includes France who has, e.g., an interesting past.By definition, you can't evolve without diversity, both external as a species and internal as a (commune/)country(/federation).

  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    Smotrich said that yesterday

  • Wow, 30%

    Worth repeating that medias should be owned by their journalists, and financed by giving citizens an allocation that they'll distribute between medias as they see fit, like a vote.The thing is that it's not a problem of solutions but of will, they want to control us, otherwise they'd improve the current system.

  • The problem always was that China didn't censor Tiktok.

  • Europe @lemmy.ml

    Wow, already ? Good news :

  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    New document released by Hamas — Our Narrative… Al-Aqsa Flood : Two Years of Steadfastness and the Will for Liberation (42 pages)

    palinfo.com /wp-content/uploads/2025/12/OurNarrative.pdf
  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    We've heard about the Oslo Accords and the initiatives in the beginning of the 2000s, but did you know that Netanyahu himself (kinda )agreed to a two-states solution in 2009 ?

  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    From Haaretz : « Israel doesn't allow journalists into the Strip, but via video we've been able to conduct real-time, online tours of hospitals and clinics. »

    archive.is /o4GTV
  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    Israelis say there's no starvation, then just bring back the number of trucks to their previous level if you're honest(, and let the UN give them food)

  • Palestine @lemmy.ml

    Also, the most liked comments in hebrew support him. Gives hope that the far-right government of Netanyahu is an exception.

  • Communism @lemmygrad.ml

    Thought it was worth sharing

  • Communism @lemmygrad.ml

    Wow, wtf, most prolific inventors in America are ethnic Chinese !

    www.patentsencyclopedia.com /top/top-inventors-2022/