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  • Does this mean we all get to sue City and Chelsea too?

  • And Chelsea

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Tifo Football Podcast: Is too much football causing injuries?

    pca.st /aw90kigz
  • We Spurs fans had three defensive coaches in succession (Mourinho, Nuno, Conte) and those seasons were pure misery and without any progress, despite at least two of those coaches being proven "serial winners". There's a reason why top clubs in the Premier League aren't defensive – fans and the media hate it and it doesn't suit the league. The clubs at the bottom of the league tend to adopt more defensive low-blocks and mid-blocks out of necessity. Some clubs like Brentford and Wolves have had some success and are dubbed "giant killers" for adopting a low-block and counter-attacking style. But they're not top-4 contenders.

    West Ham were steered to victory in the Europa Conference league by David Moyes and he is a notably defensive, pragmatic coach.

    Also, in the 22/23 Champions league, 3 of the 4 Premier League clubs in the competition have lower GA/90 (goals against per 90) stats than Atletico:

    • Atletico: 1.50
    • Liverpool: 1.50
    • Chelsea: 0.90
    • Tottenham: 0.88
    • Manchester City: 0.38

    The eventual winners of the Champions League last year was of course City, with a total number of goals conceded of just 5 in a total of 1170 minutes of play. Atletico conceded 9 in only 540 minutes.

    I don't think Simeone knows what he's talking about.

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Chelsea FC face new questions over how Roman Abramovich funded success (summary of article below 👇)

    www.theguardian.com /world/2023/nov/15/chelsea-fc-face-new-questions-over-how-roman-abramovich-funded-success
  • Same for me but using Geddit. Also finally exploring Mastodon for a replacement for match threads.

    Both are part of the fediverse so not mutually exclusive.

    You can start a match thread on Mastodon and mention the handle of this community in the post (@football@lemmy.world) and it'll not only start a thread on Mastodon, but also here. Comments added on Masto will appear in the thread here and vice versa. Likes on Masto will appear as upvotes here and upvotes here appear as likes on Masto. It's quite cool. You can tell when a post originated from Mastodon because it has that little rainbow fediverse icon on it.

    If you follow a Lemmy community on Masto, the posts will appear as boosts in your timeline.

    Here's a thread I started on Masto but is also on the !coys@lemmy.world community:

    https://lemmy.world/post/8197032

    All the comments were added from Mastodon, not Lemmy.

    This is a thread I posted here directly from Mastodon:

    https://lemmy.world/post/7968059

    More details on how all this works here: https://vijayprema.com/using-lemmy-from-my-existing-mastodon/

  • Yeah, experience from moderating over at !coys@lemmy.world is that you've just got to keep posting and posting and posting and gradually, very slowly, the numbers creep up. Same on Mastodon on the #MastodonFC and #COYS tags (can't speak for other clubs). You've got to give people a reason to come back.

    Personally, I'm not sure the individual posts containing a single goal from a specific match is helping much. Makes the community seem very noisy. IMO would be better to have one thread per match with goals posted as comments. But I'm not mod here and others may feel differently, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    FWIW, I don't see the community as dead. I post a few things here and there's often a good number of votes and some good discussion. Seems far from dead to me.

  • Yeah, he did say, "I was half-tempted to throw some balls out there for them to kick around". It's right there in the quote I posted.

    They'll need to come up with some strategies for keeping warm while waiting an indeterminate amount of time while waiting for VAR.

    So not bullshit at all then.

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Ali Gold asked Postecoglou: Is there a chance that the amount of waiting around players are doing now with VAR can lead to more muscle injuries?

    www.football.london /tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/postecoglou-ven-maddison-january-transfers-28083134
  • Is the argument trash, though?

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Rio Ferdinand's Between The Lines ft. Ange Postecoglou | Media Training, Tactics and Harry Kane Void

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Flav on TalkSPORT on Arteta's outburst. Is he right? What do you think?

  • Yes, the big league with their multiple camera angles led to so much scrutiny after the games, VAR felt somewhat inevitable. I'd like to see it radically scaled back. Goal line technology is fine. But get rid of the ridiculous offside checks and the debatable handballs and let the game flow. There's an argument emerging too that all the standing around waiting for decisions can lead to injuries as muscles cool and stiffen.

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    'One of the most mind-boggling Premier League games ever'

    www.bbc.co.uk /sport/football/67340878
  • Most? According to what survey? I don't know of a single person that thought it was, overall, a good WC. I'd wager most people would put it down as one of the least memorable in living history. It was dreadful, and players came back to the Premier League knackered and injured. Worst WC ever.

  • That is fucking ridiculous and a disgrace. It was shit in Qatar in the middle of winter and it'll be shit in Saudi. What a joke. The levels of bribery and corruption in world football now is incredible.

  • I don't think Haaland coming second is a fair representation of his stature as a striker enjoying the fruits of exceptional service. He's notably worse when Rodri and KDB aren't playing. The fact that goal scorers like Haaland get votes highlights what a weird award Ballon d'Or is. The focus should be on the team award with secondary individual awards for best positions (best 9, best 10, best wingers, 6, fullbacks, centrebacks, and gk).

  • Do you know where I can get xG data before 2017? That's where FBref stops.

  • I've redone it with a little more care (see above) and agree the summing of xG over performance wasn't a good idea. It was a vestigial artefact where I'd been mucking about and I wish I'd removed it, but it was late and I couldn't be bothered as it didn't really affect the point I was making and it's not intended to be rigorous maths.

    The results in the updated version aren't significantly different apart from Messi. The reason Messi's over performance has shifted so much in the update is because I removed the three PSG and MLS years, which I think are an unfair reflection on him.

    I don't agree averaging the xG overperformance "grossly" inflated the numbers (unless you consider 6% gross). I do agree including the PSG and MLS years grossly short changes Messi, but I noted something to that effect in the original.

    You don't need to be quite so hostile to people sharing their stuff here btw - save that for Twitter or Reddit if hostilities float your boat. I take it you're not and have never been an educator? But no harm done - thx for the feedback - it was useful and improved the analysis :)

  • A little heavy to say "fraudulent" and "total BS" - it's a sketch I quickly knocked up from FBref data (which only goes back to '17) to help me understand Son's low xG and relatively high actual goals. It's meant to be indicative rather than precise. Critique and improvement always welcome, but no need to be so rude, mate. I'll make some improvements based on your feedback.

    I was a little surprised by these figures myself so went looking for any prior work in this area and found this from '21: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham/son-heung-min-xg-harry-kane-b1782968.html. The figures there broadly reflect what I've got here. The point being made remains the same. It also contains some theories as to why Son is such an outlier, but the conclusion seems to be Son is indeed unusual.

    "Goodman agrees, though, that in a game of mostly uniform standards of finishing, Son’s numbers are startling."

    "Goodman" here is Mike L Goodman, the former managing editor of StatsBomb.

    I agree it will be good to see how he fares with a) more shots; b) more goals; c) more play in the box. This season and beyond with him playing as a 9 should hopefully shed some light.

    I also agree he's probably not the one-of-a-kind genius Messi is. But to be even vaguely comparable is in itself quite a remarkable thing. And the bigger question for me is, is there anyone else, aside from Messi, that comes close?

    Update: here's an improved version: https://thelastboyscout.uk/assets/img/son_xg_stats.webp

  • Would you say he's THE most elite finisher, though? He's definitely up there when comparing the data of his peers. That's what I mean but underrated. He takes fewer shots than the others, so that could be skewing things. But then again, if you look at other players who take a similar number of shots, they don't overperform like Son consistently does. I don't know, he seems to be a bit of a outlier. I can't find any other player like him. Will be very interesting to see what his numbers are like at the end of this season with him playing as a 9 and without Kane. Will he still overperform?

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Is Son one of the best finishers EVER? Let's look at some data. 👇

  • We need to find a way to make it bigger.

    Post content and replies consistently over time and it'll grow. The problem is people expect it to be like the other networks that have been through that process over decades. Takes time and tenacity to build communities. :)

  • True. But now with Scott Munn running the football. We can only hope Levy has learned his lesson and will leave the football side of Tottenham Hotspur FC to football people. If he can rake in the cash from the stadium and other ventures then more power to him, just as long as it doesn't come at the embarrassing expense of good football.

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Ange Postecoglou becomes first manager to take 23 points in their first 9 games in the Premier League. Impressive.

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Son Heung-min matches Salah, Scholes, Shearer, and Henry as he moves up to FOUR Premier League Player of the Month awards

    www.premierleague.com /news/3734764
  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Ange Postecoglou makes Premier League Manager of the Month history

    www.premierleague.com /news/3735014
  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    How Tottenham Hotspur compare to the rest of the league so far

  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Howard Webb addresses VAR controversy after Liverpool’s loss to Tottenham

    www.standard.co.uk /sport/football/howard-webb-var-liverpool-tottenham-premier-league-2023-b1112673.html
  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    EURO 2028 host stadiums announced

    cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com /2023/10/10/23911062/tottenham-hotspur-stadium-named-one-of-10-hosts-for-euro-2028
  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Premier League verdicts: Top five predictions, first sacking, unpopular opinions, composite XIs of season so far

    theathletic.com /4945036/2023/10/10/premier-league-predictions-sacking-transfer/
  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Socceroos manager Graham Arnold interview: Messi ‘mind games’ and kicking the s**t out of Postecoglou

    theathletic.com /4945124/2023/10/10/graham-arnold-australia-postecoglou-messi/
  • Football (migrated to football@sopuli.xyz) @lemmy.world

    Micky van de Ven: Why Spurs defender is my (Premier League) signing of season so far — Henry Winter

    archive.ph /c8ult