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deaf_fish

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  • 'I got death threats when men thought I put feminist gesture in video game'

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  • there is room for them having reasons not to get help

    What? Why should there be reasons for that? They are traumatized and being antisocial like sending death threats.

    and room for them to get help but not improve.

    Yes, this how most therapy is. Once you are traumatized, that is it. You get to go though life traumatized. Therapy will help by reducing negative reactions, giving tools to deal with negative reactions in a way that doesn't harm yourself or others. You have to do the work. You still have to deal with the consequences of your actions before and after therapy. There is no time limit except for the longer you do antisocial stuff, the longer you and others will need to deal with the consequences.

    Where I draw a hard line is creating cultural excuses and encouragement for retaliation and instigation, which I believe you have done by saying it’s fine for women to intentionally instigate men to cause insult.

    By "fine" I meant it is reasonable to do giving the circumstances.

    What I can say for sure is that I strongly oppose politics that try to excuse harming groups just because they’re less harmed than other groups.

    I think we should not excuse or encourage people intentionally harming other people.

    These are fine statements, but historically doing nothing often make these problems worse. If you looks at the civil rights in the US, for example. If black people didn't start causing a scene, they wouldn't have made any progress. The long term outcomes of not doing anything in response to antisocial behavior is that you get walked over.

    Rather, we should focus on creating uplifting spaces where people of all genders are brought together across divides to focus on common goals and interests. This helps humanize the other and reduce social tension.

    If the professionals agree, sure, but this should be a government project. You don't want traumatized men, women, or feminists building such a system, otherwise it will probably not turn out well.

  • POV: It's January 19th

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  • Yes, has there been a lack of evidence for the Palestinian genocide?

  • 'I got death threats when men thought I put feminist gesture in video game'

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  • “Get help” is not so simple, and is a patronizing, individualist thing to say to people who are having trauma responses to bodyshaming.

    I agree that it isn't always simple to do. I didn't mean it in a patronizing way, I meant it in a matter of fact way. Do you not suggest people who are having trauma responses to every hand gesture that mimics a pinch? Clearly they need to get help or they are going to be constantly in a trauma response their entire life by people who mean them no offense. It's a pretty sad way to live, so much potential wasted.

    I have gotten help and it has improved my situation drastically. I would suggest anyone give it a try.

    And I think it’s fine for men to then bodyshame women in turn. But – oh wait – making excuses for bodyshaming doesn’t actually improve anything. It just increases tension and resentment.

    I think if you make the claim that men have human limitations and can't help but to retaliate or instigate, you need to hold that claim for women as well. We are all humans just doing our best. This whole thing has been made super public and both sides have been hurt. So the fallout is unavoidable here. Why should women be expected to hold the civility line when men are having trauma responses to perceived body shaming?

    It's been a bit since I have looked into the situation but last time I check several artists are out of a job and business are scared because of a pinch gesture. The retaliation has been feminists who actually mean to body shame. Has there been anything else? Have any body shamed men lost money, jobs, or their lively hood?

    All this to say, from where I am standing the traumatized men are still a head here.

    There are more choices than just these two.

    I never implied there were only two choices. There are many options. I think picking the "returning fire" option is reasonable.

    But maybe I am missing a better option. If you have a suggestion, please make it.

  • POV: It's January 19th

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  • We already had in place Protecting Americans' Data from Foreign Adversaries Act, and the American Data Privacy and Protection Act. These acts prevent companies from giving US consumer data to foreign adversaries. Why did we make another law specifically naming tiktok?

    Also, this is a fun watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8dctPC3c4A

  • POV: It's January 19th

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  • It's not that it isn't spyware, it's that all social media is. If the US had a problem with spyware, they would make a sweeping laws about spyware. Not just target one platform. This is racism pure and simple.

  • POV: It's January 19th

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  • No on spies on our citizens except for us!

  • 'I got death threats when men thought I put feminist gesture in video game'

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  • I feel like we're kind of in the weeds here so I'm going to state my position openly. I'm a man who has been accused of having a small penis many times in life. I say this to communicate that I understand what it's like to be accused of having a small penis and I get it.

    Any man who thinks that a pinching motion is unquestionably making fun of them for having a small penis with our out confirmation, needs to get help. That motion is done all the time by all genders for any particular reason. Any man who causes harm because someone said he has a small penis also needs help. If you need help and you don't get help and continue to behave in antisocial manner, then you deserve to be made fun of. At a certain point, antisocial behavior needs to be handled.

    If a large enough group of men are being antisocial because of a pinching motion. I think it's fine for feminists to make the pinching motion intentionally to cause insult. For women to have to just deal with the antisocial behavior and ignore it is not acceptable.

    My opinions would be the same if the genders would be reversed, so I feel like I've got a pretty solid argument here.

  • 'I got death threats when men thought I put feminist gesture in video game'

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  • Yes, but that didn't happen here.

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    ‘It’s Total Chaos Internally at Meta Right Now’: Employees Protest Zuckerberg’s Anti LGBTQ Changes

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  • Yeah, the only outcome I can see from this is everyone is given a choice to stay and shut up or leave if they disagree with the new direction. Most will chose, the people who stay behind to cause trouble will be removed shortly after and then business will return to normal.

  • Humanity loophole: you can pay people less if they're from prison.

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  • Na, I would be trying to the least amount of work possible.

    Small easily contained/extinguished fire starts on a porch.

    "I'm sorry ma'am we can't stop it. This is going to be a total loss."

  • "Free" Speech Absolutist™

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  • Sorry conservatives, you are now woke too. You gave it your best.

  • Pro-Luigi Mangione content is filling up social platforms — and it's a challenge to moderate it

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  • Self defense? Are you implying the CEO was going harm Luigi directly? Or eventually though healthcare denial?

  • Pro-Luigi Mangione content is filling up social platforms — and it's a challenge to moderate it

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  • I see having a reasonable take on this is also giving you downvotes. I think the pro Luigi group has a problematic subgroup that wants to murder anyone.

    If it were up to me, I'd start figuring out a way to separate that subgroup out. Otherwise you're going to end up with someone randomly murdering and painting the whole thing as just murderers with no ideological point. That will kill whatever good work this is done.

  • Balanced news reporting [@twisteddoodles]

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  • I heard it explained like this. If one person says it's raining outside, and another person says it's not. The job of the reporter is to look outside to see if it's raining or not. Their job is not putting them in the same room asking them to debate each other about whether or not it's raining.

  • Bargaining

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  • Sounds like depression.

  • Costco doing right

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  • Yes, that is my problem with it. DEI is about finding the best talent at the cheapest price point. This means if a man and a woman can do the same job. They will have them both do the same job but will not pay the women as much as the man.

    This is better than keeping the woman as a secretary instead of an engineer, but it isn't helping anyone, it's just underpaying women and other minorities.

  • Costco doing right

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  • IED?

  • Costco doing right

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  • I work in a DEI company, there is no quota. They just want to higher cheap immigrant labor where they can get away with it and make their minority and women workers more productive by making them feel like they are cared for.

    Why would a company voluntarily do something that would make it unpopular and lose money?

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  • DEI is all about making money by using resources that being racist and dumb leaves on the table. The moment it becomes too expensive DEI won't fix it.

    Id rather have DEI than not have it, but DEI is for company profit, any other benefits are secondary.