Man kann den Supermärkten schlecht vorwerfen, wirtschaftlich zu handeln.
Ich tus trotzdem. Ich werfe ihnen vor ihre Arbeiter schlecht zu behandeln und unfair zu bezahlen. Ich werfe ihnen vor armen Menschen Nahrung vorzuenthalten. Ich werfe ihnen vor das Leid in unserer Gesellschaft zu vergrößern.
Is that the workplace you want? Devoid of personal lives but mere drones who congregate to labour and then disperse into their personal lives where finally they are free to express themselves how they want?
Its not a real choice. It is meant to reduce the number of people of certain religious affiliations from public workplaces aka ban them.
Consider if the "choice" given women was between presenting male and giving up their jobs. Or not to be considered for a job. It would in effect ban women because they would either have to give up their gender identity at least for the duration of the work or not work there.
Likewise here it would be allowed to make the denunciation of ones religious convictions a job requirement. It's atrocious.
So we should ban all displays of religion in public and at the workplace because of the actions of vile clergymen? I agree that religious symbols can be a trigger to people who have been subjected to harrassment and assault in a religious context. But I haven't heard these people talk about a ban on religious symbols in general.
Right, the comfort of people that feel uncomfortable around others simply because of their religion is of no importance, regardless of the religion they feel uncomfortable around because there is no actual threat. It "just happens" to be more prevalent around muslim people which is why I chose that example. My edit meant to clarify that.
Do all of the organisations of that religion need to be dangerous to warrant a ban on the entire religion or just some clubs? The biggest clubs, the most clubs, whats the criteria here? What about people practicing that religion that do not belong to any religious organisation?
Again you are proposing banning an entire religion, that means places of worship, religious texts and items and removal of any public display of these religions because they are deemed as dangerous as nazis. So it stands to reason that any building or statue that displays the same religious symbols ought to be demolished or vandalised to the point where it can no longer be recognized as a building of that religion.
How should a government judge a religion as worthy of such persecution as the nazis?
edit: maybe via an example. Tell me which religions you want the government to ban and why.
But we are talking about banning an entire religion and any symbol or item associated with it from the public and workplace, not some clubs and their signage. My question is how should a government decide if e.g. christianity as a religion is a dangerous ideology, and should therefore be banned, or whether it isn't? We are not talking about banning some clubs here, but your claim that some religions are inherently so dangerous that any religious display or symbolism should be banned from the public and workplace. And presumably since they are so dangerous probably ought to be banned in entirety.
So you want religion banned across the board? If its a dangerous ideology surely simply banning it in public workplaces is insufficient but any religious institution, place of congregation, text or item ought to be confiscated and rooted out
Edit: also lets be clear here, by dangerous ideology you are not referring to all religions because these bans affect some religions more than others and very conveniently not the predominant one, but the one constantly maligned and singled out as a "dangerous ideology".
They are given a special status by being banned though. Freedom of expression extends to being free to express your religion through clothing, these laws exempt them from this right and give them a special banned status.
I was raised christian in a majority Muslim country. I know exactly what these laws do, because I felt it myself. Hence me speaking up. The shoe being on the other foot does not suddenly make it right.
edit: also the laws of a country do not reflect the values of every person on earth that shares the same religion as the one which is predominant in that country. Or even of the religion itself. Thats an islamophobic red herring.
People that feel uncomfortable because they fear for their safety around openly Muslim people are islamophobes and their comfort does not matter more than the Muslim persons right to practice their religion.
Edit: in general enforcing a cultural nonreligious hegemony by banning any religious displays at work and in public goes against the freedom of religion. People feeling uncomfortable because their faced with something they don't like is not a greater ill than people being free to practice their religion.
Jo, mein Vorwurf gilt nicht nur aber auch den hiesigen Supermärkten.