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  • Anyway to check this via the HA dashboard?

  • Jews have lived in this land. They were given part of that land again after ww2 by a UN decision. Arabs that were living there were also given part.

    Jews were willing to share their part of the land with the Arabs, as equal citizens

    Jews accepted the offer, Arabs didn't and declared war.

    Everything since then just went downhill

    Personally, I'm in favor of going back to the original resolution and have two countries. But if having sharing one country will end the conflict, then by all means...

    Unfortunately both sides don't have enough interest of solving this conflict...

  • Do you just want to troll or have a meaningful discussion?

  • Jews have lived in this land for many generations as well and equally have the right for that land as well. That's not to say that they should drive whoever lived there out. They were offered full citizenship and their own full sovereign country which they didn't have before but they refused and instead declared war.

  • Okay. Seems like you're under the delusion that if Israel had an open free border with Gaza, like in the EU, peace would break in the region

  • I agree with your analysis of Israel. I don't see much hope for change there, unfortunately and looks like this sentiment will only grow stronger from now on. However the discussion was around Hamas specifically. They don't want to live in peace alongside Israel. They completely deny the concept of Israel and will not stop until the last Jew is driven out. Can't justify that either

  • Not a paradise but not too bad of a prison either https://nitter.net/imshin/status/1733819052659740965?s=20

    The tunnels are built to provide strategic advantage over Israeli military superiority. Also to smuggle equipment for rockets which Hamas has plenty of and uses them regularly. Ordinary Gazans do not get to use the tunnels to hide and stay alive. They are needed as human shields instead.

    Israel is far from being a spotless angel. Nothing in life is black and white like that. But Hamas started this one. And Israel cannot live with an organization that kidnaps, rapes and beheads people on its border

  • Like the previous comment said, not a very effective genocide. Land wise, Palestinians were offered their own state on 48, they rejected so that Jewish people will not have their own state.

  • Israel was not occupying Gaza, in fact it withdrew its settlements and all army forces in 2005. On October 7th, not a single Israeli soldier was in Gaza.

  • Gaza is only an “open air prison” because it’s controlled by a jihadist organization fixated on a religious genocidal fantasy and willing to commit funds, resources and civilians’ lives towards it. Its’ crucial to remember that Gaza borders Egypt as well. The Israeli and Egyptian blockade of Gaza is a legal, defensive measure taken as a result of Hamas’ intentions, threats and violence, not the other way around. Israel left Gaza in 2005 withdrawing all civilians and military, and is met with hostility and violence from the territory ever since. Leaving Gaza unchecked while Hamas operates it as a terror-state would only bring about exacerbated violence and death.

  • Israel withdrew from Gaza long time ago and was not occupying Gaza before Oct 7 when Hamas decided to declare war on it by massacring and kidnapping Israeli civilians.

  • Palestinian population increased by some 500% since the founding of Israel in 1948. The goal of the current Israeli operation is the destruction of the actually genocidal Hamas, not of Palestinians.