Hello Davel, I see your point. Don't worry about my being infected with Democratic Party opinions, I don't live in the US and I don't care about Hillaries or Kamalas.

But still, are there enough middle class ppl to sway elections to one side or the other? Historically, and I have Germany 1933 in mind, Hitler needed mass support which came from the working class, too. The same class who by the way provided the most corpses for the war.

Striking closer to home: the bulk of the Spanish Falangists were working class as well. If you look at their leader, José Antonio Primo de Rivera, you'll see that the leaders were haute bourgoisie indeed. But the king needs pawns to play chess, if you know what I mean.

Of course this debate is also about what is considered middle class or not. Twice the minimum wage? One million times? There are so many problems with the self-reporting of being middle class that the concept itself is super politicised.

Also, a general apology to anyone who thought I'm some sort of reactionary. I'm not. But I'm not perfect either. This does not warrant hurtful and agressive attitudes either (not you Davel, someone else in the thread).