Hawanja

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It's supposed to be drool.Get your mind out of the gutter, lol.

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Now that you’ve finally done your homework, presented the sources of your beliefs for me to examine, like I told you to do about seven times, I will happily go through them, since you are no longer trying to make me go on a wild goose chase hunting down every random internet user with something negative to say about the USSR.

The whole point, since the begining, was to get you to do additional reading beyond what is presented to you. You know, to LEARN ABOUT THE FUCKING SUBJECT.But you don't actually care about the subject, do you? Because you only give a shit about defending your ideology, and not about the truth about what actually happened. This is why you're always going to lose, because you're dishonest, and I have no patience for people who are dishonest.

Edit: Jesus fucking wept.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 7d ago

Then apparently you didn't read this source, which was one of the sources I gave you, where it says "In Moscow of the 1970s-1980s, for a regular schmuck in a regular clerk position, the rule of thumb was 10 years, give or take."

Or this, also from the same source, "Large regional capitals and major cities (Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Riga): commonly 7–20+ years; in the biggest cities many applicants waited a decade or more."

Or maybe this one from Russia Beyond, which is the other source I gave you, which you loved to point out says "On average, the waiting time to receive an apartment from the state in the USSR was around six to seven years." However if you weren't so damn lazy you would've read the next fucking paragraph, which says "Public sector employees (teachers, doctors) could join a waiting list compiled by the local administration, but the waiting time on these could be more than 10 years." It's almost like you don't care about the actual truth.

Or maybe if you weren't lazy you could've done some additional reading like I told you to like seven times, then you would've found this source, which literally the 5th result in a google search, and you would've seen this:

'Life in a hostel is unbearable even with one child,' Natalya Fomina, 26, a weaver at a textile factory in the Ural Mountains told the weekly Moscow News. 'By the time I get a flat I'll probably be an old woman.' A 20-year wait was termed 'the general rule.'

But you didn't bother doing that because you didn't do any further reading because you're intellectually lazy and don't give a fuck about the actual truth. So no suprise there.

Hey look, here's another source which is literally on the front page of a google search, where it's mentioned " I’ve been waiting for a home for 10 years, but I can’t afford it and I don’t have a back-up." I won't tell you which page that's located on because I want you to find it for yourself.

In fact, since I know you're lazy as hell and don't actually give a fuck, here's five other sources. But watch out, one of these sources is false! Which one is it? You'll have to quit being lazy and actually READ them to find out.

Here Here Here Here and Here

Now quit being lazy. Go to Google.com, type in "How long did people wait for housing in the USSR," click "Search" and read some of the god damned links. Ask yourself "Do you actually care about the truth?" Because if you are then stop lying to me about reading, and actually do the fucking reading.

Jesus fucking wept.

Hawanja @lemmy.world 7d ago

Idk every time I post a comic I get scolded to make it nsfw lol

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

I asked you to read additional sources besides the ones I provided for you. Did you do that?

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

Bro, what is the one thing I asked you to do, in my last 15 comments?

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

Ok, I see that you're more interested in winning an arguement than what is really true. I'll say it one last time,In real life, the wait time for the average person to get an apartment in the USSR was more than 10 years, sometimes up to 20 or more. This is what multiple sources (including the ones I posted) actually say. If you don't believe me go back and read them in greater detail, or even better do some additional reading of other sources that I didn't list.

Nowhere have you presented any evidence it was remotely close to 20-30!

Because i'ts not my job to educate you. I told you what to do, now you can choose to do it.

God damn, no wonder kids are so fucking stupid nowadays. Nobody can get you people to read.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

Lol you're literally asking me to do your work for you.No, if you're interested, YOU can go and do the research, like I've been telling you for the last five comments.

And you can talk all you want about how I “don’t care about the truth,” no amount of posturing will change the objective fact that 7 is less than 20.

The truth is normal people waited 10 or more years, sometimes more than 20.I mean you wouldn't know, because you haven't bothered to do any additional reading. I've already proven it to my own statisfaction, now you can do the same.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

So you haven't bothered to do any more research, correct? Do you really care about the truth? Or do you only care about winning an arguement?

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

It was more than 10 years for most people, and up to 20 years or more.Which you would've known if you'd bothered to do the reading.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

What's more important, what you want to believe or what really happened?Read up on the subject please.

Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

Good. Maybe they'll stop using attack dogs now.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

You are a good example of that, yes.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

You just can’t accept that basic mathematical fact because you’re an ideologue.

No, I think you refuse to do the research on this subject because you're the actual ideologue here. You have an emotional stake in somehow proving that the USSR wasn't a totalitarian inept impoverished wasteland, and actually learning what life was like under that system would destroy your worldview.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

Whatever son. It's a free country, so go with whatever bullshit you want. The evidence backs up u/Blacklazor and not you, I love how you just can't handle it.

I would also like to point out the parts of his comments that you didn't dispute or don't have a probem with, such as his father "needed to get a permit to leave the country," or that food was "rationed, not subsidized," or the fact that in order to get housing, one must get on a list and wait multiple years in the first place. I mean, yeah that sure does sound like a great place to live.

But please, go do the work and read up on the subject, because you're wrong on pretty much all of your points above. Like this one:

That’s not what he said at all. The 20 sqm apartment was the “piss poor commie block apartment” that one would have to wait 20-30 years for.

Nope. If you would've actually done the research, you'd have seen that one is usually given a bed in a dormatory, then must get on a waiting list for a "piss poor commie block apartment." The tiny apartment where a family of four is squeezed into 20sqm is after they waited multiple years. This is if they were lucky enough to get an apartment they didn't have to share with multiple other families.

Now please put in the effort and read up on it, because you're really misinformed.

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Hawanja @lemmy.world 2w ago

I think the reason you try to bully me in every thread where we cross paths is because I handed your ass to you on a silver platter with all the trimmings, and your ego won't let you live it down, because the thing people like you fear most of all is being proved wrong.