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  • not even a single reaction to any of those posts

  • you mistake your own pride for grace, that is prelest

  • Not until they lost their armies, but until they realized “Hey, unchecked power is intoxicating and war only leads to more war” and spit it out

    this is intense historical revisionism, they did not graciously hand over power, the risorgimento forcibly stripped it.

    pius ix called himself a prisoner of the vatican when italian troops took rome in 1870 and the papacy refused to recognize the italian state for sixty years.

    the Lateran Treaty with Mussolini was their reconciliation with losing

    1. so you concede that it was a temporal kingdom, for over a thousand years. the pope still holds all the kingly titles, he just lost the armies to enforce them

    2. this completely confirms my argument- this is exactly the kind of conflation of spiritual authority and temporal authority which the catholic church has used to exterminate its enemies. it just lacks the power to do it these days.

    3. 'not currently an empire': you are arguing against a point i didn't make

    i accept your concession

  • the pope holds the title pontifex maximus, inherited directly from roman imperial religion. one of his other titles is 'sovereign of the vatican city state' which literally means king of rome.

    the vatican was a temporal kingdom for a thousand years.

    unam sanctam declared total papal supremacy over all earthly rulers, and it wasn't abandoned on theological grounds, it was abandoned because they no longer had the armies to enforce it

    yes, arian emperors persecuted christians that's the point, conflation of imperial power and spiritual authority results in tremendous abuses, something 'catholics' were more than happy to continue.

  • this is your religions history, you really need links??

    pre-schism imperial church violence:

    donatists: north african christians who refused communion with bishops who had collaborated with roman persecution. augustine developed the theological justification for using imperial force against them. precursor to the inquisition

    arians: christians who held that christ was subordinate to the father. it was a position enforced by some emperors and violently suppressed by others depending on who was in power. the nicene settlement was imposed by imperial authority, not theological consensus

    paul of constantinople: patriarch of constantinople, exiled multiple times for refusing to accept the arian settlement imposed by emperor constantius. eventually strangled on imperial orders

    eusebius of samosata: bishop who refused the imperial arian settlement, stoned to death by an arian woman while in exile

    martin of tours: refused communion with bishops who supported the imperial execution of priscillian, arguing the state had no business executing heretics

    bogomils: balkan christian movement rejecting church hierarchy, sacraments and material wealth. persecuted by both byzantine and later catholic authorities, their suppression in bosnia was a direct precursor to the albigensian crusade

    violence against christian heretics and orthodox:

    waldensians

    albigensian crusade/cathars

    sack of constantinople

    the inquisition

    spiritual franciscans

    jan hus/hussites

    violence against muslims and jews:

    the crusades

    rhineland massacres

    spanish inquisition

    reconquista

    colonial and indigenous violence:

    inter caetera/colonial americas

    california missions

    residential schools

    violence against women and the poor:

    witch trials

    magdalene laundries

    nazi collaboration:

    ustaše

    reichskonkordat

    ratlines

    pius xii and the holocaust

  • plenty of christians did not have interest in swearing fealty to the king of rome, and were killed for it, long before there was the protestant schism. you ask for proof, i point to your own 'church''s history

  • yes, the 'church' that was burning heretics opposed to fealty to the king of rome then produced a schism that also burned heretics

  • why thank you, it's pretty awesome. i have almost completely cut out other social media at this point.

  • correct, and then they became it

    survived roman persecution to become the thing that burned 'heretics' for opposing the king of rome

    i wouldn't even call it the same religion either, more like an inversion of it

  • calling other people genocidal is an interesting accusation from a worshiper of the king of rome

    the 'roman catholic' church even invented a theological doctrine to legitimate hierarchy and imperial power, exactly what anticommunists always accuse communists of doing

    правда глаза колет

  • the truth always seems to find me though

    also it's like clockwork, check the modlog of fervent anti-communists, find a bigot!

  • you're absolutely right, i'll try to be more genuinely sorry and even more correct in the future

  • Idk though, maybe it’s just me

    i'm having a great time

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    shamelessly stolen from rednote

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