sqgl

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12mo ago

Poll Finds Most Americans Would Swap Democracy For $100 Best Buy Gift Card
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sqgl @beehaw.org 12mo ago

Strange closing paragraph.
the highest they’d been since 1996 when 80% of Americans stated that they would live under an Islamic theocracy in exchange for a $50 gift card to Radio Shack.

1y ago

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Do you have an example of such violence in Gaza pre Oct 7 and post settlement withdrawal in 2005?

The blockading is because in that time Hamas and PIJ were sending missiles and suicide bombers into Israel.

There was retaliation each time. Disproportionate because it was meant as a deterrent (obviously it failed to deter though).

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

On the contrary, Ireland has been trying to get the official definition of genocide changed so that it can match what is happening in Gaza but cannot get enough countries on board.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-wants-expansion-of-the-definition-of-genocide-under-the-geneva-convention-says-taoiseach/a1112529887.html

As for your link: "A growing number of academics, legal scholars and governments are accusing the lsraeli government of carrying out a genocide against Palestinians in Gaza." is hardly authoritative.

"A growing number" with no substantiation that it is growing. Besides, it is in contravention of the Geneva Convention definition.

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

Furiously? I am not the one making ad hominem attacks. I am not putting words in your mouth. I declared no such thing. I bring up uncomfortable facts.

There is no such thing as a mainstream political bloc. 5 coalitions were tried and quickly failed resulting in renewed elections before Netanyahu won. There are Left leaning Israeli parties (who value liberalism, unlike Hamas) but I am pretty sure they don't want to vacate the Levant either which is what these discussions always seem to come down to.

Jews aint leaving. Arabs aint leaving. Get real. I don't know how they can make it work. Neither of us has a solution.

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

Do you really need to resort to name calling and bullying? There are reasonable arguments to be had.

You call it genocide but I do not accept your redefinition of the word. Do you call Russia's war on Ukraine genocide? Russia targets purely civilian towns with drones and missiles (unlike Gaza situation) but it isn't genocide. I can acknowledge that despite being pro-Ukraine.

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

And you want what? Israel to roll over and allow continuous repeats of Oct 7 (which Hamas vowed to do, on the record)?

Here is a more mature argument you could have used against me: How would Israel know if all of Hamas surrendered anyhow? What could possibly count as a surrender?

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

UNWRA was compromised so the impartial party option has been abandoned.

It requires military to keep Hamas from stealing the aid. It is not realistic to expect an outside neutral military to take on this task. UN could not keep Hezbollah in check in Lebanon.

It seems Hamas are annoyed not just that they are being denied supplies for themselves and to sell to civilians but also because they need civilians to be starving to win the PR battle. Full stomachs will divert attention from the war so should we starve the people? Which is it? Allowing Hamas to hijack it isn't going to happen so forget what the UN says (which is very vague).

Regardless of what we argue here, the distribution will continue. It is just two days into it so let's see if it going well. Of course for some ProPals it will not go well unless Jews vacate the Levant (an unrealistic fantasy regardless of whether one believes they should be there or not).

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

They aren't very efficient with "genocide" are they? Bad shots you reckon?

It is a terrible war without resorting to hyperbole. I understand it is for PR but surely we can be better than that on Lemmy?

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

Likud certainly don't want it unfortunately. Horrible situation.

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

Luckily the distribution seems to be going well though. That is a good thing, yes?

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

You are right but it wasn't in the Crikey article of OP so go maybe easy on the commenter.

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

It is a good point however Likud took 5 dud attempted coalitions before coming back in power. Bibi was about to go on trial for embezzlement. They were not that popular.

Unfortunately while Likud are still not popular, political pundits say the Left would be very unlikely to form a coalition government in the next election.

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

Admittedly Crikey accidentally made it sound worse by taking it out of context but they may not have had access to the video (which has since been posted in this thread).

Nevertheless, a one-state solution cannot work because Hamas are not seeking what this guest is talking about.

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

Senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri.. [in an] interview, which aired on a Libyan television channel... referred with indifference to the number of Palestinians who have been killed in the Gaza war, calling this "the price we have to pay," and remarked that the women of Gaza will compensate for the loss by "producing" more babies than those who have been killed.

https://www.memri.org/reports/gazans-furious-hamas-it-has-nothing-contempt-victims-war-and-prepared-sacrifice-us-all

1y ago

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sqgl @beehaw.org 1y ago

ProPals throw accusations of "whataboutism" when someone tries to discuss nuance as often as Zionists throw "anti-Semitism" when they are criticised.

The two points remain unaddressed by you:

Hamas hijack aid and are complaining now that IDF wants to control the distribution to prevent this.

Hamas could surrender for a swift end to the war.

everything Hamas does is also lsrael's fault. lsrael created Hamas. They funded Hamas deliberately as a way to destabilise the Palestinians.

Indeed. Bibi favoured Hamas over Fatah and for cynical reasons as you point out. You are not talking to a one-eyed football mentality person.

Hamas (being right wing fascists like Likud) should have known the consequences of Oct 7 well in advance but they naively thought they could rally Arab neighbours to battle like in the past.