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  • I was very confused about this too. But now I realize that's not what "FOSS" means to everyone. There are developers that work with FOSS in the same way they could (or do) work for a corporation – note the many comments like "users don't have any rights to make demands of developers", "developers don't owe anything to the users or to the 'community'", and similar comments. Luckily there are also developers for which "FOSS" does mean what it means to you and me.

    Maybe there are other FOSS users that are under the same misunderstanding as I was. It should be made clear that "FOSS", per se, really means nothing else than "not requiring payments" and "with source open to the public". Any extra meanings depend on whom you're speaking to.

  • Thank you. My initial thought was simply that we users should tell how we feel to the FOSS and Linux developers of the software that we use and are especially attached to; but we should do it in a polite way. I've now realized that "FOSS" does not have the connotations that I thought it had, like "community-oriented", "inspired by human rights", and similar. My bad, honestly. There clearly are developers for which working with FOSS is really not different than working in or for some corporation. But luckily there are also developers for which FOSS does have those extra meaning. What's important for me now is to keep supporting the latter, and ignore or shun the former.

  • Yes, it's polite, as opposed to rude. Go and check the meaning of "polite". One for example says "She politely asked them to leave".

  • The jury found tech firms treated addictiveness as a feature, not a bug

    No shit, Sherlock! 😮

  • Very true. It's just that the latest changes have trespassed some thresholds for some users of the systemd distros.

  • Luckily I can still share this here. Indeed, many thanks to the mods of this community for not deleting this.

  • Maybe this is going on already. Unfortunately I have no idea.

  • Same here.

  • I don't think enough developers realize that the majority of users does not want this. They're acting exactly like the legislators: "we don't give a shit about what the people think".

    The legislators won't take the Linux community seriously, because the developers aren't taking the community seriously either.

  • I'm curious to see how it'll develop.

  • Yes, that's the good news. But probably some of the forks or privately-modified OSs will therefore be by definition "illegal", just like in some countries the wine that you might make from the grapes in your garden is illegal.

  • I don't think it's unproductive at all. Positive changes and resistance to negative changes are caused by many, extremely different and complex factors, one of which is voiced discontent at all levels. It's a chain of pressures. Some elements press on other elements which are not the final target, but this pressure makes them in turn exert even more pressure closer to the target. Edit: take for instance the Montgomery bus boycott – was the bus company responsible for the law? shouldn't the black people have done the boycott then?

    Without such internal pressures, positive changes may fail. History shows examples over and over (a good read is the historian Barzun's From Dawn to Decadence). I'm sure that if it wasn't me posting stuff like this, it'd be someone else, and maybe sharing a much less polite post.

    Also, I think that this kind of moderation ends up giving a very false picture on the forums, as if everyone discussing there doesn't really mind about the topic.

    I think developers can do something about it. They don't want to, maybe for obvious reasons, and I respect their choice. But there is a choice.

  • If you visit, say, the website of the American Association of Physics Teachers or similar associations, you can read their complaints, protests, and alarming messages about cuts and bad policy changes in the education system. So clearly laws like these are not truly targeted at the well-being of children. Fu*king invest on education of children and adults instead.

    We forget that there's no just law, there's also morality. And sometimes they are against each other. And we must make a choice.

  • I don't live in California, but I was one of the many who wrote to EU parliament members against the chat-control law proposals, and participated in other local activities about that.

    I'd be happy to write to the lawmakers in California. I suppose my email would immediately go into their spam folder.

  • It isn't a threat, anymore than their decisions are threats. I suppose the developers give at least a minimum of weight to what the users think, so why shouldn't we politely say what we think and explain why?

    You're right about posting in the Kubuntu forums. However, I now see that surprisingly there's only one post about age verification in KDE Discuss, and only one on Kubuntu forums. So I feel that they're simply blocking posts about this topic. In one of said posts there was a link to another related post, which apparently has been deleted.

  • No, because the Afghan woman doesn't live in California...

  • Indeed! As I wrote in the post, these are just examples that explicitly mention age-verification.

  • No official decisions yet, although in a discussion thread I read developers basically saying "the law is the law". This is why I politely wanted to let them know, as a KDE user, what's my stance.

  • Linux @programming.dev

    How to test Wayland from a live USB? (Ubuntu/Kubuntu)

  • Linux @lemmy.ml

    How to test Wayland from a live USB? (Ubuntu/Kubuntu)

  • Manga @lemmy.ml

    One-Punch Man webcomic ch. 155

    mangafire.to /read/one-punch-man-webcomicoriginall.jjn/en/chapter-155
  • Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Sci-Net

    sci-net.xyz
  • DeGoogle Yourself @lemmy.ml

    Getting unhappy about DuckDuckGo

  • Linux @lemmy.ml

    Wine 10.2 suddenly broken (solved)

  • Physics @mander.xyz

    A little physics riddle

  • Science @mander.xyz

    A 15-minute intro to involute gears

    lcamtuf.substack.com /p/a-15-minute-intro-to-involute-gears
  • Science @lemmy.ml

    Federal antitrust lawsuit against six commercial publishers of academic journals

    www.lieffcabraser.com /antitrust/academic-journals/
  • Science @beehaw.org

    Federal antitrust lawsuit against six commercial publishers of academic journals

    www.lieffcabraser.com /antitrust/academic-journals/
  • Matrix @lemmy.ml

    Matrix let-down

  • Fediverse @lemmy.world

    Matrix let-down

  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Parody site ClownStrike refused to bow to CrowdStrike’s bogus DMCA takedown

    arstechnica.com /tech-policy/2024/08/parody-site-clownstrike-refused-to-bow-to-crowdstrikes-bogus-dmca-takedown/
  • Anime @lemmy.ml

    Mahito & Saitama

  • LEGO @lemmy.world

    Just stumbled upon this Duplo construction...

  • Fediverse @lemmy.world

    Matrix address: how to give it? Should it be protected from spam bots?

    matrix.org
  • Firefox @lemmy.ml

    Cookie whitelisting on Android?

  • Science @kbin.social

    References & resources about non-RNA-based self-replication?

  • science @lemmy.world

    References & resources about non-RNA-based self-replication?

  • Science @lemmy.ml

    References & resources about non-RNA-based self-replication?