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  • I think the reason why meta wants to federate is this:

    • it helps with anticompetitive arguments, because it’s "open" and not controlled by meta alone
    • some will refuse to use anything from meta, and threads users being able to communicate with them adds value
    • it won’t hurt meta, because the majority will be using their app anyways
    • it helps their image

    I don’t think they’re doing it to "get more data" or to "take over the fediverse". There’s nothing worth taking over for them currently and since most people don’t care about the fediverse I don’t see it growing much either. Although I’d certainly like it if that were the case.

    They can probably get the data already, it’s all openly available. Federating it’s basically all upside and no downside for them, but it’s not exactly the biggest priority to implement it, it‘s going to take some time.

    I’m not saying it might not have a negative effect or that they care a lot for what’s currently there. They’ll certainly want to monetize threads sooner or later.

  • Sry, I‘m still not following. I don’t understand your argument, are you saying they want to federate to gain additional users to grab data from? Because I don’t think that’s going to be a significant amount of people.

    Most people don’t care about what makes the fediverse desirable to its current users, all it does is add friction to them and therefore I don’t see it growing much either.

    I think the reason why meta wants to federate is this:

    • it helps with anticompetitive arguments, because it’s "open" and not controlled by meta alone
    • some will refuse to use anything from meta, and threads users being able to communicate with them adds value
    • it won’t hurt meta, because the majority will be using their app anyways
    • it helps their image

    I don’t think they’re doing it to "get more data" or to "take over the fediverse". There’s nothing worth taking over and they can probably get the data anyways, it’s all openly available. So it’s basically all upside and no downside for them.

  • Maybe I’m not getting something here, but neither Mastodon nor Lemmy are private, you can find everything open for everyone already, so how would federation change something there? Federation doesn’t mean everyone would use their app, so they wouldn’t gain any app usage analytics.

    Also I don’t get how your metaphor make sense. The amount of fediverse users is a rounding error next to threads, instagram, WhatsApp and facebook. So there’s not a "lot a tiny things that can add up", only a small amount of tiny things which don’t really add up to anything.

  • Well, I don’t think I’m the one who has to get over something, but sure. Thanks for the kind words.

  • Firstly, you can choose an instance that doesn’t federate with them. Everyone can choose for themselves. And second you didn’t read it probably, they’re testing it and there a handful of accounts that have activity pub enabled. That certainly doesn’t make them the biggest presence.

  • There’s a large number of people here that have a deeply emotional hatred for anything related to Meta and I get that. But these dull comments don’t make for a fun discussion. They don’t add anything. They won’t affect anything. They’re just boring comments wasting everyone’s time.

  • It’s great that everyone is able to choose for themselves

  • You can customize it already, but some of it is still in beta like you said.

  • It’s a bit different:

    The new For You feed now won’t just showcase a range of popular, but diverse, accounts, but will customize its suggestions based on the user’s own “friends of friends” network. That means the content from public accounts that friends of friends follow will be surfaced in the new For You feed. - Techcrunch

  • What have you been mostly using them for if I may ask? And how much do you use them in general?

  • Wdym, you got one of them and you‘ve been enjoying it, but don’t like the potential privacy implications?

  • I get the trade of and it’s probably been the correct choice as I can’t imagine that specific theft affected a large portion of users. Still an odd place if you find yourself without your phone and soon after locked out of your digital life including you bank account and much more.

    It’s great Apple is taking steps to improve the situation there.

  • The phone passcode, though, not your account password, which I still find an odd choice. All you need(ed) was the pin to unlock the phone to completely take over the entire account, including all your passwords and with it probably bank accounts, pictures, disabling find my, etc.

  • Yeah that’s the problem with apples apps, they get one release and then varying degrees of updates once a year. But most of them keep getting better and if they work for you they’re a great option. I went back to Notes, reminders and keychain and I’m quite happy, but not entirely happy ^^

    I guess we can hope for an update in a year and if we‘re lucky it gets what we’d like to have.

  • I’m assuming this is a topic for Lemmy and not for Voyager. Sounds like it would make sense, though.

  • It sounds like Henriette couldn’t keep up due to health issues and I hope she’s doing okay under the circumstances.

    It feels like there is one app per user and since Lemmy hasn’t been growing much (looks like it’s been shrinking lately) it’s probably unavoidable for this to happen. I’d love to see everything grow, but that’s just the hype cycle I guess. I’m pretty sure this sadly won’t be the last project to slowly fade out of existence.

    Sorry to be such a downer ^^

  • Yes, in my experience really no one cares about iMessage even the slightest in the EU. It would make zero difference if Apple was forced to change anything there.

  • Technology @beehaw.org

    Evernote is about to seriously limit its plan for free users

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/29/23981683/evernote-limit-free-plan-notebook
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    Tumblr sheds Post Plus subscriptions as the platform downsizes

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/27/23978683/tumblr-post-plus-subscription-downsize
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    ChatGPT iPhone App's Voice Chat Feature Now Free to All Users

    www.macrumors.com /2023/11/22/chatgpt-app-voice-chat-free-to-all/
  • Apple @lemmy.world

    You Can Already Watch iPhone 15 Pro 3D 'Spatial Videos' On Existing VR Headsets

    www.uploadvr.com /watch-iphone-15-pro-spatial-videos-on-quest/
  • Mlem for Lemmy @lemmy.ml

    Love the new icon!

  • Apple @lemmy.world

    Apple Gets 36% of Google's Safari Search Revenue

    www.macrumors.com /2023/11/13/apple-google-safari-search-revenue/
  • Apple @lemmy.world

    AI-Infused iOS 18 Lauded as 'Ambitious and Compelling' by Apple Execs

    www.macrumors.com /2023/11/13/apple-says-ios-18-ambitious-compelling/
  • Apple @lemmy.world

    Humane Debuts $700 AI Pin With 'Laser Ink Display'

    www.macrumors.com /2023/11/09/humane-ai-pin/
  • Apple @lemmy.world

    Is there anything you miss from previous iOS versions?

  • Apple @lemmy.world

    iOS 17.2 Beta 2 Includes Feature for Recording Spatial Video on iPhone 15 Pro

    www.macrumors.com /2023/11/09/ios-17-2-spatial-video-recording/
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    Signal tests usernames so you can avoid sharing your phone number

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/9/23953603/signal-username-feature-test-phone-numbers-privacy-security-pre-beta-2024-launch
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    Humane’s AI Pin costs $699 and $24 a month with OpenAI and T-Mobile integration

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/8/23953022/humane-ai-pin-price-specs-leak
  • Apple @lemmy.world

    Apple Developing Next-Gen Battery For Future Vision Headsets

    www.uploadvr.com /apple-next-generation-battery/
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    WhatsApp head confirms ads in the messaging app are still in the works

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/7/23950795/meta-whatsapp-status-ads-sales-advertising-plans
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    ChatGPT subscribers may get a ‘GPT builder’ option soon

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/5/23947720/openai-chatgpt-gpt-builder-chatbot-creator-gizmo-tool-rumor-ai
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    Discord file links will expire after a day to fight malware

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/4/23946640/discord-file-links-will-expire-after-a-day-to-fight-malware
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    Microsoft employees will keep free access to Xbox Game Pass Ultimate after complaints

    www.theverge.com /2023/11/3/23945294/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-ultimate-free-employee-perk-restored
  • Technology @beehaw.org

    The beauty of finished software

    josem.co /the-beauty-of-finished-software/
  • Voyager @lemmy.world

    Title autofill for links is great!

  • Voyager @lemmy.world

    Different Sorting for Home/All?