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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

  • someone who only speaks truth to power or just opposes the status quo will almost invariably be downvoted. using those downvotes to identify trolls is just bad practice.

  • i'd say it gives tools to moderate based on groupthink

  • It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes [...] Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. —Journal of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (2016)

    It is the position

    no, it's not. it used to be.

  • your strawman is bad faith

  • the very first reference in that list is an outdated position by the and. it expired five years ago. it's likely some of those other links also rely on this now expired position.

    I wouldn't take everything there at face value. you will need to actually click and read every link critically.

  • it might be true, but the data they used is specious.

  • I can, but I'm not going to

  • you still haven't provided any cognitive behavioral science to support the claim that nonhuman understand that they themselves might die, which is an essential step in establishing that they want to live out that they didn't want to die

  • ease is a relative term

  • I'm mostly referencing your allusion to agriculture as a developmental milestone

  • I think you are giving a very eurocentric description of early humanity

  • there is no reason to suppose eating animals is bad. since it is so normal, both among humans and in the natural world, the burden is on those who propose that we don't do that.

  • i never suggested they don't have consciousness, though i rather doubt that some animals, like muscles, do. i said they don't understand personal mortality. if you can find me an animal cognitive behaviorist who disagrees, i'd love to read their work.

  • since i'm right, i agree. it will be easy.

  • do you treat your phone like you treat your neighbors phone, and like you treat your laptop, and like you treat your car?

  • I'm right. there's nothing more to say

  • it's not solipsism. it animal cognitive behavioral study.

  • oh, no thank you.

  • people need more than nutrients.