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  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • Tough to follow the thread when my old comments keep getting removed, lol.

    You keep accusing me of dishonesty, which I'm genuinely not being, but I don't think I'm going to change your opinion of me.

    You did point out I was incorrect on something and I verified it and affirmed that you were correct. I'm not sure what else you want from me there.

    However, if we're accusing each other of arguing in bad faith, I think it's pretty clear I wasn't saying, "the savages can't govern themselves." We don't need to resort to flagrant misrepresentation. I think I've attempted to approach your position charitably and engage with it in a respectful manner.

    I did struggle to figure out what exactly it is you're arguing for in the last block of quotes. Do you think that reconciliation between Israel and Palestine is actually an easy problem that can be achieved without outside influence? Looking back I don't know that you've established what you think should be done to resolve all this.

  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • I'm not ignoring it. I don't believe that the entire US should be dismantled and returned to the Native Americans, despite them being indigenous and suffering centuries of genocide either. History is messy and not every vase can be repaired.

    A secular single state could be an ideal I could get behind certainly. I'm fine with that as an outcome. But to be clear, that's not what either side wants or is fighting for.

    But to clarify, you're fine with the state of Israel continuing to exist and even fully annexing the West Bank and Gaza, so long as they secularize their government, stop the genocide, and allow equal representation to Palestinians? Perhaps some reparations thrown in for good measure? If so, I think we just completely agree.

  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • I did. I'm confused by your question.

    Is it because I said "at minimum"? Because that's simply implying that there is a potentially more charitable read of what she said, which I then outlined.

  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • Look, at minimum she clearly says all Jews are morally culpable Zionists. Do you think she's considering herself a culpable Zionist?

    The word "all" is often used in ways that don't mean literally every single one. If I say "all Americans are fat and lazy," or "none of the users on lemmy.ml understand how language works," do I mean that there are literally zero exceptions to that? Of course not.

    She is saying that the vast majority of Jewish people, even those who disavow the actions of the state of Israel, are still just as morally culpable as the staunchest Zionist and should be treated the same. And she makes it pretty clear how she values the life of the staunchest Zionist.

  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • I'm aware. I read the article.

  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • It's a pretty long article, so I probably won't read it again. It does end with "If Judaism has to die for Palestine to live, kill it," though. It also says that October 7th was a good and righteous attack that everyone should support.

    I think that one can be against Israel without wanting the elimination of all of Judism. I also hesitate to full throatedly support an attack against civilians that happened prior to the large scale Palestinian genocide that's been happening since 2023.

    None of which is to say that Israel is some misrepresented good guy. They're not. And they certainly aren't the victims of the Palestinian genocide.

    But I don't think that's grounds to hate my Jewish American neighbors. And if there's one thing this article is abundantly clear in its stance on, it's that all Jews, even "non-Zionist Jews," are directly morally culpable for the Palestinian genocide.

  • Yes, All Jews.

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  • Man, I thought that "yes, all Jews" was clickbait, but no, the article is saying that literally all Jews are culpable for Israel and that they would support the extermination of all Jewish people. Kind of a wild take...

  • Iran denies any talks with Trump, claims he 'retreated'

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  • You know what's funny, is that he didn't even call him the n-word when I posted. He just said that you could call them "whatever you wanted," no holds barred.

    Really changes the tenor of my post now that his has been deleted. I'd meant it as a joke or whatever.

    Though I think he might have edited it after I said that to include the n-word? Idk, it was weird, lol.

  • Truthpaste

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  • For sure. But the problem isn't palm oil itself, which seems like something of a miracle plant when compared to other sources of vegetable oil. It's that the supply chain for it is rife with abuse. Similar to coffee, or honestly, most things that are harvested predominantly in poorer countries with less oversight.

    But, like coffee, it seems there are organizations that certify certain palm oil suppliers as "cruelty free," so it's probably better to try and hunt those out in favor of foregoing palm oil entirely, which seems like a pretty incredible product otherwise.

  • Truthpaste

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  • That article you linked seems to be saying that palm oil is actually really good?

    It says that it is a major driver of deforestation because people are tearing down trees to grow more of it because it's a very useful and versatile oil.

    It later says that switching away from palm oil isn't a solution because palm oil is actually such an efficient crop that if you used something else the amount of land needed to produce enough oil would drive far more deforestation.

    The article is a call for more regulation on deforestation, not a call to not use palm oil. It in fact almost argues the opposite.

  • Iran denies any talks with Trump, claims he 'retreated'

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  • Probably shouldn't call him the n-word.

  • YSK: Denazification in West Germany was lenient and ultimately abandoned, with many Nazis remaining in positions of power.

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  • Oscar Shindler: pure cope.

  • Tech hobbyist makes shoulder-mounted guided missile prototype with $96 in parts and a 3D printer — DIY MANPADS includes Wi-Fi guidance, ballistics calculations, optional camera for tracking

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  • Ah, fair. I only watched the non-short one. Didn't even notice the shorts.

  • Tech hobbyist makes shoulder-mounted guided missile prototype with $96 in parts and a 3D printer — DIY MANPADS includes Wi-Fi guidance, ballistics calculations, optional camera for tracking

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  • Has he released another video? I only see one on his YouTube page.

  • Get conflicting messages here

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  • If read all together it sounds like something a Bond villain would say in some low rent, meat themed James Bond film.

    Meat is murder, Mr Ribs...

  • Tech hobbyist makes shoulder-mounted guided missile prototype with $96 in parts and a 3D printer — DIY MANPADS includes Wi-Fi guidance, ballistics calculations, optional camera for tracking

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  • I wish the video actually had him using it to hit a drone or something. As is, it only shows one actual launch, and it didn't look all that impressive. His motors didn't seem to have enough umph to let the missile stabilize properly.