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  • Yeah, I know... I've given up at that front with some of the comments here... It's unfortunate, but I feel the whole issue with many topics in nutrition is that it's unreasonable to expect for most people to read up on organic chemistry and metabolism lol And even if you have some understanding, much is still far from understood well.

    So most people end up with a superficial (mis)understanding. And Fruits, Corn Syrup, fresh juice, "100 % juice but actually it's concentrate" get all tossed together in one bag because omg Fructose.

    I've certainly seen an increase in people on- and offline claiming fruits are essentially death cookies. Sometimes even expanding that to peas etc. because they realised Fructose is in them.

  • I am interested how someone is supposed to live a healthy life without fruits and vegetables. Sure, you do spare the calories that stem from the Fructose, I guess.

  • Health impacts.

    I feel like you try to derail the conversation and move goal posts to "be right".

    Fruits and vegetables contain Fructose, Fructose has a smaller number of negative health impacts than Saccharose and Fructose is metabolized differently in our body than other sugars.

    The intravenous administration or other consumption of very high doses of Fructose, often in obese and/or diabetic patients in studies, has been identified as a potential risk factor for fatty liver.

    That doesn't mean eating fruits and vegetables increases the risks for a fatty liver. It also doesn't mean Fructose and Saccharose are the same.

  • That's why I did not wrote "a fat liver is not a negative health impact".

    I wrote Fructose has less negative health impacts. This means when you count health impacts there are less (= a smaller number) for Fructose.

  • Well, while it is a type of sugar that makes fruits sweet, it in fact does get processed differently in your body. Fructose, among other things, can't be stored in muscles. Your body also doesn't need to provide Insulin to process it.

    When comparing something sweetened with Fructose and something sweetened with Saccharose, the sweet from Fructose has less negative health impacts.

    Unless I misunderstood what you mean with "count against you" (I am not a native English speaker).

  • I am sorry, you struggle with this so much. Perhaps try again with a calculator?

  • When I look at those neat American suburb grids and imagine to be a shop owner, I would love to put my store directly into the grid. Is it just not allowed to have a shop in those neighborhoods? Isn't that anti-capitalist lol?

  • No I don't. I don't even have a driving license.

    It's also not just about cars. Oil is in other products people can try to avoid. Everyone can do something. Everything between voting for the right direction to changing your whole life around it. It doesn't matter where, as an individual, you can exist on that spectrum. As long as people don't just throw their hands to the air and deny all responsibility.

  • Many people also are prone to zero sum thinking. When you tell them that everyone is responsible, they hear "We shouldn't blame corporations, YOU are to blame!"

    Even though that's neither what you said nor thought.

    Zero sum thinking + cognitive dissonance.

  • "I can't do it perfectly, so I better don't do anything at all"

  • Choline is in many vegan foods: grains, nuts, brassicas, beans, lentils, everything made from Soja,...

  • Sure, but perhaps people could stop eating at that restaurant?

    Because how some people currently are acting is that they continue to support these corporations, unwilling to switch to alternatives.

  • At this point, I'd rather like to see edgelords go extinct.

  • Per DIN 5008 before and after the value is legitimate.

  • If this is the pizza for 36 $ I feel pitty for humanity.

    Someone, who probably works a shitty job that pays mostly for their rent, comes home way too tired and depressed to cook. Orders a pizza that looks absolutely underwhelming. For money that is equivalent for a month of food in another country.

  • They are buying countries - or parts of it. For example Larry Ellison bought Lanai, which is an Hawaiian Island. There are probably more examples.

    And that rich people are building sophisticated bunkers is a known fact.

  • It's the same with the AFD in Germany. People were so busy insulting those who vote AFD and telling them how stupid they are that now even more people vote AFD. I wonder how anyone thought this was going to vote for a different party?