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Great Blue Heron

@ GreatBlueHeron @lemmy.ca

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  • This is one of the things that frustrate me about Debian based systems. I know most distributions ship with lots of different tools to do the same job and you pick the one you like. But with something as fundamental as system timers it just feels wrong to me - when I want to change the timing of something I first need to figure out is the cron job real, or just a stub referring to the systemd timer, or visa versa.

    So for a while I had removed cron from all my systems and fully committed to timers. Now I've decided I don't like systemd and gone fully the other way.

    I know it's not that bad, but that's the way my brain works - and I can remember getting really screwed up with some early Ubuntu systems.

  • The North American pole of inaccessiblity being in South Dakota (maybe an hour drive from major highways) and not somewhere in northern Canada says to me that the name does accurately reflect what these points are.

  • Exactly - I've got a really shitty memory. I'd take a photo so that in 5 years time I'll get a reminder from my photos app - hey, on this day 5 years ago you were in The Louvre.

  • Or:

    shampoo -> /bin/busybox

    conditioner -> /bin/busybox

    I find it funny that systemd gets so much hate for trying to be all the things, but haven't seen the same criticism directed at busybox

  • I get the joke, but it's weird for me that my highest ratio is for a Debian 13.3 ISO - 767MB down, 13.85GB up

  • That makes sense - thanks

  • Shouldn't he be in the cage? Why should she have to be inconvenienced to protect herself from him?

  • I'm pissed because I moved here from Australia about 5 years ago and part of the appeal was the ease of doing road trips to various US locations. I have not been since arriving and can't see myself ever going (I'm not young and can't see things improving enough in my lifetime)

  • BudgetAudiophile @lemmy.world

    Looking for turntable cartridge advice

  • Everything should be edible except things that obviously are not - mussel shells for example. I feel the tomato vines fall into this category (but accept that it's arguable). That shallot is 100% edible.

  • networking @sh.itjust.works

    Routing between OpenVPN tun and libvirt VM

  • I've read a lot of fucked up shit in the last few years - that's the first time I've thrown my phone in response!

    (My phone's fine - I just threw it onto the sofa beside me, but still..)

  • What are you using to ship the logs to VL?

    That's the reason I'm here asking about logging. I'm in the process of changing and wondering if I should switch it all up. I was using systemd-journal-remote, but I'm switching from Debian to Alpine so - no more systemd.

    you should start excluding them before they reach VL

    Now that confuses me. As I said in my original post - I had some preconceptions about centralised logging before I set it up, and having a single place to manage filters was certainly something I was hoping to get from it. Also any filtering would only be for reporting. I'd like to keep a full set of log data for potential problem analysis etc.

  • Yeah, I've been doing some more reading. Victoria Logs is doing a good job consolidating my logs and is very lightweight. It's the visualisation that I'm missing. Grafana can do it, but I'm having trouble getting my head around it. That's OK - it's just my home lab and it's mainly a learning exercise - I need to learn some more.

  • I'm already running a grafana instance, so I'll look into elastic/filebeat. Thanks.

  • Linux @lemmy.ml

    Any Victoria Logs advice or alternatives

  • It's fun to point at the crappy performance of current technology. But all I can think about is the amount of power and hardware the AI bros are going to burn through trying to improve their results.

  • Saying Redhat is based on Fedora just seems wrong. I know there was discussion about this when the simpler version was posted and I think I understand that, today, RHEL is downstream of Fedora. But Redhat existed before Fedora so it still feels wrong to say Fedora is based on Redhat.

    "Fedora Core 1 was the first version of Fedora and was released on November 6, 2003.[15] It was codenamed Yarrow. Fedora Core 1 was based on Red Hat Linux 9."

  • This is perfectly logical and I agree. Except that this controversy has prompted me to go learn about Lennart Poettering. I've been using systemd forever and I like it - I like journald and remote journald, I like networkd, I even deleted cron off my systems and use systemd timers exclusively. I knew there was some controversy about Lennart, but I didn't really care. Now that I've read a bit about his background and, maybe more importantly, his new company - I don't have a good feeling for the future of systemd.

  • I'm thinking the same. I understand the people saying it's no big deal, it's just an optional field. But the existing optional fields (GECOS) have been there since the beginning of time. The original Unix user database (/etc/passwd) was created in a different time. Things have changed in the last 50 years and we now know that a simple field in an OS level database is not really an appropriate place to store PII. I don't know what the solution is, as these laws are coming and there will be some people that need to comply, but I don't think the current change to systemd is the right approach.

    On the plus side - this controversy has prompted me to look into other options for my home servers and I'm loving the minimalism and simplicity of Alpine. (This isn't a knee jerk reaction - I've been frustrated by the bloated feel of mainstream distributions for a while - more the straw that may break the camel's back)

  • I never said I can't do it - I've been running different varieties of unix for over 35 years. I said it's not trivial.

    And, being a bit pedantic with your terminology - systemd does not "centralises stuff that does not relate to each other into one single program". systemd, systemd-journald, systemd-networkd, systemd-resolved etc. etc. are all separate programs, provided by the systemd project, with their own configuration. You are free to pick and choose which parts of systemd you use and which you don't.

    All that being said - I am a bit over complexity of modern mainstream distributions and am now considering moving to Apline for my servers.

  • I've never followed the people or the politics - I just started using systemd when it appeared in whatever disto I was using at the time and liked it. I'm trying to catch up now because I have reservations about using projects that incorporate AI (and I'm learning this may be impossible to avoid) and I most certainly won't use anything that implements age verification. (The irony of typing this on a device that has age verification via my credit card hurts)

    I accept that Microsoft had significant influence over systemd when Poettering worked there, but I don't understand how they do now.

    I also understand that Poettering likes Windows, and wants to make Linux more like Windows. That's not the same as Microsoft controlling systemd.

    Are you saying that Amutable is just a front for Microsoft?

  • homeassistant @lemmy.world

    Can I develop without VS Code?

  • homeassistant @lemmy.world

    Should I get a ZBT-2?

  • homeassistant @lemmy.world

    Any IKEA Zigbee experts here?

  • Linux @lemmy.ml

    Finally using Linux as my desktop

  • Joplin @sopuli.xyz

    Sync Android to Windows - working now

  • Selfhosted @lemmy.world

    I don't get the love for Nextcloud - alternative for just files?

  • Debian operating system @lemmy.ml

    cron vs systemd timers

  • Android @lemmy.world

    Is Google deliberately crippling my phone...

  • Hardware @lemmy.ml

    Are all USB3 SATA enclosures bad?

  • Electricians @lemmy.world

    More weird potential offsets

  • Electricians @lemmy.world

    Supply voltage variance

  • Electricians @lemmy.world

    20V AC between slab and electrical ground

  • Google Pixel @lemmy.world

    I'll be looking for Pixel alternatives when I can afford a new phone

  • networking @sh.itjust.works

    Options for under performing Cat6 cable

  • Firefox @fedia.io

    Firefox with uBlock Origin slow on some sites

  • vegan @lemmy.world

    Pepperoni sticks?

  • Programming @programming.dev

    Project idea for learning