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Efwis

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  • KAOSnow, a totally new take on Democracy

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  • Please check our community page to see if we may have achieved what it was you were looking for us to avoid. As for the echo chamber affect, that will be caused by the user not our site. I will be posting a snippet of our LiveStream this morning as soon as I can to our community page. Please be patient with me as I am working on some new features for the site.

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  • Pleas note, we I have brought this converstation to our admin team, and we have, we hope, found a way to mitigate your concerns you brought up. Please go to the !KAOSnow@lemmy.zip community to see these changes so as to now take this up in this community. Please ask any questions or voice any concerns you may have. Your opinion matters to us.

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  • So we had our meeting this morning and made changes to the way it is handled. Please see !KAOSnow@lemmy.zip to see these changes.

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  • we're not putting a minority or majority issue in place. We had a meeting this morning, like we do every Sunday. To help mitigate this issue we have removed the ability to reply to posts directly. All opinions posted will not have reply ability by anyone, except Moderators or administration. And that will only be used if/when necessary. We want everyone to be able to voice their opinions without having to put up with people arguing with them on the forum. This was decided among the founder, myself, and our co-founder. We are also updated the description of KAOS and I will be making a post in our community regarding this.

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  • Unfortunately you are correct with your last paragraph, and we are open to ways to help broach this issue.

    I do agree a lot of the free speech forums did turn into massive echo chambers. But as far as I can tell it was because of lack of proper moderation and showed that the site admins and moderators were directing the conversations to that end.

    Since we, meaning the people who participate as registered users, have it in our by-laws that we are apolitical and don’t choose left or right topics. We believe in the people having a voice and being heard. If you don’t like a post you don’t have to reply, we have a ranking system that will be tied into upvotes and downvotes on the subject matter. We do ask that you read the post before mashing upvote or downvote of course.

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  • Actually I have moderated this groups. I knew coming in Thai wouldn’t be easy, but I love a good challenge.

    As. Said in another comment, people complain the loudest and are quiet when there is no complaint.

    I agree, we need to get the quiet ones more involved. If you have any ideas that would help accomplish that I’m up to listening. You can even post that in the !KAOSnow@lemmy.zip community.

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  • All identifying info is sha256 hashed and is not available, even to the administration. We also don’t ask for any identifying information other than email address, and that can be a throw away mail if they want.

    We are taking this into consideration and are doing everything possible to mitigate that. Hell, you don’t even have to use your real name, and the only people who see the up addresses are administration, which is me and our co-founder. This info is only for security reasons which require banning an account.

    If you put any identifying information on your post, then that’s all on you not us. Hell we don’t even show what state or country you’re from.

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  • The moderation we are talking about revolves around not changing the person post.

    If it’s not acceptable, such as bots posting, which we are in the process of setting up on the website, CSAM, doxxing etc are to be instantly removed and banned by IP address as well as email address.

    We have taken those issues into consideration and are constantly working towards that end.

    As for the bigot part, everyone is a bigot about something whether they know it or not.

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  • There is a difference between modifying the content in a post and removing it al together.

    We want people to see the true you, not some canned response/opinion that has been given to you by the source, but rather your own unbiased opinion on the matter. Which means you better do research and educate yourself on the topic before posting. Like I said in other replies, you need to provide reliable sources of information, generally at least 2 of them, but more is better. The intent is to prevent an echo chamber effect. We also have a living constitution we are working on that allows changes as needed to help mitigate these problems, and all the votes are voted on by registered users, not the administration of the institution.

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  • We aren’t looking for your concern, because we do have moderation in place. Now answer this, why should they not have an opinion? Doesn’t make it right, but we do want to be inclusive for everyone regardless of their outlook on things.

    Besides, if enough people actually downvotes the person, it will help teach them about how wrong they are in the subject. People with the right attitude about this will help drown out the recklessness of these haters.

    We also require links to sources that back their belief. These have to be reliable sources such as media websites and government websites.

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  • I won’t, they can bitch and moan all they want. It’s a them problem because they don’t want to hear the truth that disagrees with their standing.

    They can yell, call me names or anything else. They want to dox me, let them it just shows how weak they really are.

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  • I forgot to mention, we were and still are discussing setting up a lemmy instance of our own for this, though currently I need to talk to our hosting provider to allow this to be set up. In the mean time we are using a forum for the purpose.

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  • Well considering the founder has been looking at this for over 40 years and it still has not ever been accomplished,I find that hard to believe it has been tried before. Our intent is to let the polling authorities as well as the government to access this data on a purchase plan we are working on right now also. Which will strictly be enough to handle the service side such as the servers, web domain, and any other expenses accrued by the project. This is a non-profit organization first and foremost. We are not doing his to make money, as it is planned to be owned by the people, not any company.

    They can look all they want, doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. We are aware of the echo chamber possibility, and we are planning to put measures in to help mitigate that, which is still being worked on currently.

    We will also be moderating the process to reduce the hate and vitriol. We want civil discussions, if you can have a civil discussion without hatred there will be less problems on that. And yes I know there are people who thrive on hatred, especially in politics.

    Hate speech, doxxing, csam and such will be moderated, the hate speech will be watched closely. The other offenses are auto-ban completely.

    We have to draw a line at what is acceptable and what is definitely illegal or direct threats of harm to individuals.

    One way we are mitigating the echo chamber is we request that you show reliable links to sources to back your claim.

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  • We are currently looking into that issue, it was something I brought up a few weeks ago. The question to answer is where is the line of intolerance and tolerance. Obviously we don't want to encourage any hate speech or anything along that line. We also have a living constitution for KAOS so that amendments and such as can be added, which will be our institutions basis for administrative decisions as well as regulations and changes to the terms or service.

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  • no its not just a place holder. I'm actually doing a little research on a topic in my mind so that I have my facts straight. One thing we do rely on is facts and sources of those facts, preferably more than once source, so that others can go and check the source themselves to make their own opinions about it.

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  • No we have controls in place to prevent, or at least greatly diminish, the proliferation of bots. There are bots everywhere even here on lemmy. It's a fact with the internet. You all seem to think that no censorship means no moderation, which is completely untrue. we do and will have moderation, and as the usage gets bigger there where be more moderators placed. The only bots we plan to allow are the search engine spiders and AI bots (without posting abilities). When a bot does get through it will be removed through moderation.

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  • that is exactly it. Let's start having civil conversations about these things. Maybe we all learn something new, regardless of the side of the discussion you are on. The key here is civility.

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  • There will be moderation to prevent obviously harmful activity such as doxxing and csam amongst others.

    But I am curious how you see absence of moderation as a form of censorship. If you could post anything you want without any repercussions for what you post, aside from others that would downvote you or point out what they see as wrong in your post, how is that censorship? No one changes your post, except you. Once again, with the exception of the aforementioned examples, how is there censorhip?

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  • Why do you say that? KAOS is not a government entity, its not paid for by governement, it is not even a blip on the radar of the government, but that is because we are still very new. We haven't made an impact that draws attention to us, YET.

    As a private enterprise, we are not obligated to follow government regulations, within reason. Yes we are aware of the GDPR and we will definately censor/ban any illegal things such as doxxing and csam or similar. We aren't even allowing photos to be uploaded. Mind you this is all on our website, not here on lemmy. Our Lemmy community WILL follow the rules of our instance at lemmy.zip

  • New Communities @lemmy.world
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    KAOSnow, a totally new take on Democracy

  • Linux.zip @lemmy.zip
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    KDE 6.1 Released Today

    9to5linux.com /kde-plasma-6-1-desktop-environment-officially-released-heres-whats-new
  • Memes @lemmy.ml
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    Interesting thought

  • Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy @lemmy.ml
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    Feature request

  • Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy @lemmy.ml
    Efwis @lemmy.zip

    Can’t click on !community@instance.name

  • Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy @lemmy.ml
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    Can’t edit any posts

  • Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy @lemmy.ml
    Efwis @lemmy.zip

    Little bit of a concern I came across just now

  • Lemmy Support @lemmy.ml
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    Is there a way to set up a testing server?

  • Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy @lemmy.ml
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    no way to log back into instance

  • Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy @lemmy.ml
    Efwis @lemmy.zip

    Running into a little problem

  • Memmy - An iOS client for Lemmy @lemmy.ml
    Efwis @lemmy.zip

    Feature request

  • New Communities @lemmy.world
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    Linux scripts and troubleshooting

    lemmy.zip /c/linuxscripts
  • Linux @lemmy.ml
    Efwis @lemmy.zip

    I've created a Linux troubelshooting and scripts community

  • Ask Lemmy @lemmy.world
    Efwis @lemmy.zip

    Are we not federated with lemmy.ml?