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  • How do we feel about federating with Threads?

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  • My main concern is that this is just Facebook Meta utilizing the “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish” strategy that Microsoft used against Netscape in the 90s.

    I feel like our small communities here - which are just getting started - are going to be flooded by Threads users who don’t even know what federation is and then all the content, power & control will realistically be in Meta’s hands.

    My gut says that is probably Meta’s goal, but what do I know? I’m just some internet person.

  • How do we feel about federating with Threads?

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  • I am not super familiar with it, but my understanding is that Kbin lets users block something by domain.

    So, my understanding is that yes individual users could theoretically block Threads content.

    If I am wrong, somebody please correct me!

  • Blocking and Downvote Stalking

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  • Could it be made that a blocked person's votes simply have no effect on the posts of people that blocked them? (ie from the blocked persons end it looks like they downvoted the person but the actually didn't.)

    Also, by hiding everything from the blocked person you also run the risk of the blocked person finding out they were blocked, which is not exactly a good thing either; they could have an alt and easily see the person's content and harass them that way.

  • Blocking and Downvote Stalking

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  • I can only think of two, and they would be exploiting this system for their own end. (Also, please keep in mind that at the time of writing I am not 100% sure how kbin & the wider fediverse's blocking system works. If I have some incorrect assumptions please correct me.) 

    1. They block the person to get the last word in, thereby "winning" the argument. Silly, yes, but people do this.
    2. They create a post/thread and block anyone who comments/disagrees with them. Those people can no longer interact with the post/thread. The only reason this is a problem is because it is a form of self-moderation. (Though, as @wagesj45 pointed out this could be a self-solving problem if they continue to block everyone they disagree with.)

    I consider both of these to be pretty rare exploitations of the blocking system, but they happen. I guess it is a question of is this system worth it with these downsides? Some people will go to extreme lengths to harass people, so I don't feel qualified to say either way.

  • The studio behind Ori and the Blind Forest is making a gorgeous action RPG: No Rest for the Wicked

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  • Ori and the Blind Forest & Ori and the Will of the Wisps were absolutely beautiful games. The artstyle was marvelous.

    I'll be curious to see what this looks like for that reason alone.

  • I'm starting to see some serious downsides to being able to see who downvotes you.

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  • Also, even if they wanted to I don’t think voting could be made anonymous at this point, either. I’m not a programmer in any sense, but I imagine it would totally break federation. Total anonymity would probably need to be a feature from the start.

    Kbin at least puts it out there so you know it’s not totally anonymous. Sometimes I wonder how many lemmy users are unaware of this because the software doesn’t make it apparent.

  • I'm starting to see some serious downsides to being able to see who downvotes you.

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  • Someone could literally make a website listing downvotes throughout the fediverse, and there's nothing stopping them.

    This is why I agree that it should be shown upfront. A lot of people won’t like it, but I think users should be somewhat aware that it’s all technically visible.

    Someone is gonna make an instance that does exactly this at some point. It will be inevitable as the fediverse matures.

  • Biden says he is 'not the only one who can defeat' Trump

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  • If it weren't real life I'd like to see that go down lmao.

    It would also be hilarious to see Trump's reaction to being taken down by the Swifties.

  • Biden says he is 'not the only one who can defeat' Trump

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  • I hope you're right. I was definitely one of those people who thought Hillary was a slam dunk and thought Trump would never win.

    I've not been confident in an election cycle since. I want to be optimistic and say Trump will sink himself and that we will all have the satifaction of seeing his ass in prison. But, he has weasled his way out of every negative consequence in his life and survived political scandals that would have sunk any other politician.

    The dude is a cult.

  • Bing tests AI Deep Search that turns your simple question into a detailed prompt

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  • Interesting. As with most microsoft products, it remains to be seen how effective this will actually be. Still, it's indicative of what the technology is capable of.

  • How do I get a magazine to federate to Lemmy?

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  • What magazine is it? I am no expert, but I think you may need to get a lemmy account to find your magazine first, and then it will start federating.

    When I was having trouble finding a Lemmy community from Kbin, I had to go to that lemmy community from Kbin where I got a 404 error. After that, I noticed the lemmy community started federating with Kbin. I am assuming the same is true in reverse.

    Again, I am no expert so if someone has better information, please correct me!

  • McCarthy Says He Will Leave Congress at the End of the Year

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  • Can’t say I feel too bad for him.

    He should have known this would happen once he agreed that one person could motion to vacate. His only chance was for democrats to come to the rescue, but he dealt them in bad faith.

    On the bright side, everyone got to see how disorganized the republicans in congress are. The downside is now we have a crazy religious lunatic with porn-monitoring software on his phone as speaker of the house.

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    Marjorie Taylor Greene alleged a male Republican got physically aggressive with her

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  • 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9 million users | TechCrunch

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  • Idk, but you would think they would have invested in a better system, especially because they’re handling sensitive data related to people’s health.

    I wonder, does HIPPA apply to data collected by 23&Me? I would imagine so because it’s health related.

  • 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9 million users | TechCrunch

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  • […] about 5.5 million people who opted-in to 23andMe’s DNA Relatives feature, which allows customers to automatically share some of their data with others. The stolen data included the person’s name, birth year, relationship labels, the percentage of DNA shared with relatives, ancestry reports and self-reported location.

    Well, that’s just great.

    The article also says that hackers were selling the data for up to $10 per account.

    Interestingly, 23&Me also just updated their terms of service a couple days ago too.

  • Muslim Americans in swing states launch anti-Biden campaign

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  • Incredibly short-sighted. This conflict has no easy solution and everyone involved wants Biden to take their side.

    The trouble here is that the democrats coalition has stakes in both sides. This entire conflict was practically a gift to the republicans.

  • Any Possibility of Supporting Kbin?

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  • Account and platform support.

    Right now there are no apps for kbin. There was one (Artemis) that was in development, and the developer had expressed early on that she was open to making a multi-platform app that supported kbin and lemmy.

    I do not know if that is still in the cards as there has not been an update on Artemis for a while now.

  • What's the plan for downvote federation?

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  • Right! I sometimes wonder if that could not lead to a schism in the future; many, many people on lemmy value their complete anonymity and they could see kbin exposing their upvotes and downvotes as a violation of that. (Not saying that people on kbin don’t, but I think we act knowing that people can see who upvoted/favorited or downvoted/reduced a post.)

    I can say that public voting has definitely changed my use of the downvote; I was much more trigger happy with it on reddit whereas I don’t think I have used it at all since I joined kbin. Lemmy users seem to use it the same way Redditors do, largely because voting isn’t public on their end.

  • What's the plan for downvote federation?

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  • (i.e. boost= two upvotes).

    I think this is an interesting concept.

    Lemmy users don’t have boosts, so they would not be able to deliver “two upvotes” but I also think kbin shouldn’t be limited by what lemmy can or cannot do.

    Having both sorting algorithms for both upvotes and boosts available as a sort option might be the most fair way forward.

  • What's the plan for downvote federation?

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  • I understand what you are saying here, and I have flip-flopped on the issue myself. At the moment I personally am a fan of the limited downvote federation because I do think it acts as a hivemind barrier; to use reddit as an example, as it got bigger the downvote was used as a means to disagree without adding any value to the discussion or to simply silence a dissenting point of view.

    That is not to say there were not times when a downvote was warranted - hateful comments, racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and general bigotry are all more than deserving of a downvote. There are also bots and general off-topic posts & comments that may warrant a downvote.

    Overall though, I think the problem is how the downvote was used (on Reddit, at least) was not conducive to discussion. However, due to the fact that upvotes and downvotes are public on kbin it is possible that behavior could change, but then that could create problems with other instances where none of that information is public to begin with. (Nobody wants to have a crazy person come after them over a downvote.)

    Right now, the fediverse is pretty small and Kbin is actually the most welcoming instance I have found so far. I am not sure if the lack of downvote federation has anything to do with this, but so far I actually like it. Maybe once kbin and the expanded fediverse grows larger my opinion will change, but right now I feel like it’s helping to make it more hospitable than reddit.

    Edit: grammar and clarity