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  • Israeli undercover forces dressed as women and medics storm West Bank hospital, killing 3 militants

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  • This is three terrorists.

    One being a Hamas commander and the other two being members of Islamic Jihad, also a terrorist organization. At least one of them had a gun with him.

    The IDF's claim is that the three were involved in a transfer of weapons and were planning another Oct 7th style terrorist attack.

    Now if we dismiss IDF's claim as "propaganda", sure one can say "boo Israel bad, perfidy!!" but Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists hiding as civilian patients in a hospital is pure moral bankruptcy no matter whether the above accusations are true or false, because they know fully well that their presence is endangering every other patient there.

    That said, I'd also have preferred if the IDF detained them for questioning instead, they could have extract so much valuable intel on the hostages and the tunnels instead.

    Also important to add: only the bedding got damaged and not a single civilian was harmed in the whole operation.

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  • It's not when they themselves require "the fulfilment of two cumulative criteria: a person must require medical care and must refrain from any act of hostility".

    Again, since you're fully confident in this, go ask the journal to retract the article I linked to. Show them how they should read the Geneva Convention, that it "shouldn't be a debate" and that it shouldn't even require an article.

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  • One with Hamas, the two others with Islamic Jihad. So yes, that makes three terrorists.

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  • Patients in hospitals, either ill or injured, are a protected class under the Geneva Conventions.

    Again, not a clear-cut issue. You cannot extrapolate a few lines from the Geneva Convention with your own definitions of what constitutes a "patient". So again, since this misinformation is being repeated, I find it only fair to quote a few passages on why that is, at least, debatable and why it is still indeed very important to add that the 3 killed were terrorists, were carrying guns and were planning a terrorist attack.

    The Geneva Convention provides guidelines for the medical treatment of enemy wounded and sick, as well as prisoners of war. However, there are no comparable provisions for the treatment of terrorists, who can be termed unlawful combatants or unprivileged belligerents.

    (there wouldn't be an article about it if it was an obvious question: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19998085/ , you should contact that journal and ask them to retract that article since you seem to say that they're wrong)

    Qualifying as wounded or sick in the context of international humanitarian law requires the fulfilment of two cumulative criteria: a person must require medical care and must refrain from any act of hostility. In other words the legal status of being wounded or sick is based on a person’s medical condition and conduct.

    (https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gci-1949/article-12/commentary/2016 )

    Being an active terrorist member of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, carrying at least one gun, planning a terrorist attack, and very likely committing perfidy by hiding as civilian patients in a hospital, all of that is certainly NOT "refraining from any act of hostility". You're free to consider the more general moral debate on whether it's okay to assassinate terrorists hiding in a hospital, but it's wrong and misleading to make the Geneva Convention say what it clearly doesn't say at all.

    What would have clearly defended the terrorists' right to care would have been if they surrendered and left Hamas. But in the absence of that, it's, at best, still debatable whether the First Geneva Convention defends those terrorists' right to hide as civilians in a hospital to "receive care" or not.

    With all this said, yes, it is very much indeed misinformation to maliciously leave out the fact that the 3 killed were Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists.

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  • When you’re in a hospital bed you are de facto refraining from any act of hostility. They aren’t active combatants in a hospital room no matter how much the IDF would like you to believe that.

    Conveniently ignoring this doesn't make your point true: being part of a terrorist organization that just committed a massacre on Oct 7 and is still holding hostages, planning a terrorist attack and carrying a gun are certainly NOT “refraining from any act of hostility”.

    Your point would have been defensible if those three terrorists 1- surrendered and left Hamas, 2- weren't carrying arms (at least one of them was carrying a gun), 3- weren't accused of planning another terrorist attack and 4- didn't commit perfidy by hiding as civilian patients in the hospital. Still being active members of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, with one of the three being a commander, IS an act of hostility.

  • Microsoft stole my Chrome tabs, and it wants yours, too

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  • Joke's on them, I only use Arch (btw)

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  • Our two quotes aren't in contradiction? Here's what the first Geneva convention defines as "wounded or sick":

    Qualifying as wounded or sick in the context of international humanitarian law requires the fulfilment of two cumulative criteria: a person must require medical care and must refrain from any act of hostility. In other words the legal status of being wounded or sick is based on a person’s medical condition and conduct.

    (https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gci-1949/article-12/commentary/2016 )

    Being part of a terrorist organization that just committed a massacre on Oct 7 and is still holding hostages, planning a terrorist attack and carrying a gun are certainly NOT "refraining from any act of hostility".

    medical units, i.e. hospitals and mobile medical facilities, may in no circumstances be attacked.[5]

    Irrelevant as no medical facility got attacked (okay, they'll probably have to replace the bedding) and most importantly not a single civilian got harmed in the process.

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  • probably ex-Redditors believing Karma is a thing here, they could also be some of the bots that someone created to downvote everything on my profile even not related at all to the Israel-Hamas war (and probably even the stuff they'd have agreed with if they read it)

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  • Hospitals are OFF LIMITS

    To terrorists too? Your oversimplification makes it seem like a clear-cut case when it's not.

    With the escalation of terrorism worldwide in recent years, situations arise in which the perpetration of violence and the defense of human rights come into conflict, creating serious ethical problems. The Geneva Convention provides guidelines for the medical treatment of enemy wounded and sick, as well as prisoners of war. However, there are no comparable provisions for the treatment of terrorists, who can be termed unlawful combatants or unprivileged belligerents.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19998085/

    So yes, sorry to insist on it again but it does matter and it is important to detail that the 3 assassinated were terrorists, and yes it should be considered misinformation to maliciously leave that out.

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  • Reading comprehension, Hamas and Islamic Jihad are two groups.

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  • Don’t complaint here

    Isn't that what you all did when I merely quoted the AlJazeera article to break your false implied narrative that the IDF killed 3 random civilians? Leaving important details out is misinformation. I added an important excerpt from the same article you linked to and you suddenly got "how dare you say they are terrorists".

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  • You’re confusing me with someone else, or trying to put words in my mouth.

    I'm referring to how commenters on c/world have been referring to this as "IDF killed 3 Palestinians" today thanks to this misinformation campaign.

    you want to try and control the narrative but that’s not how this works

    That's... false? I'm not the one actively leaving out the fact that the 3 killed were Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists, which the AlJazeera article even admits. And I'm not the one trying to bury this detail with downvotes to keep the false "IDF killed 3 random Palestinians" narrative alive a little longer.

    You believe that no one should be assassinated like that, whether they are a terrorist or not, that's perfectly fair. (so I suppose you hate the way the US assassinated Osama Bin Laden too?)

    But then, why do you feel that the affiliation should not be brought up? You should test your beliefs and go ask on c/asklemmy: "Is it morally wrong to assassinate three Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists hiding in a hospital?".

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  • Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!)

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  • No target can have a high enough value to justify committing a war crime over.

    Then you shouldn't have any issues with detailing that the three were Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists when you refer to this incident instead of maliciously saying "IDF killed 3 Palestinians"?

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  • You're beating around the bush here. Why is it so hard for you to include the excerpt? Remember, the rules in this community allow you to do that. Why is it hard for you to write "IDF killed 3 Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists" instead of "IDF killed 3 Palestinians" when you refer to this incident?

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  • All of that is entirely irrelevant

    Is it? If it was irrelevant, you wouldn't need to leave it out to gather support for the assassinated terrorists. You perfectly know that the reaction would have been different if OP hadn't left it out, which is why you still insist on leaving it out, and yes, that is scummy.

    Every reputable outlet is not leaving out that crucial detail:

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  • You're free to ask on c/asklemmy "Is it morally wrong to assassinate three terrorists hiding in a hospital?" and get a debate going on the morality of it. It's not okay to keep spamming the lie by omission that "IDF killed 3 Palestinians", obviously insinuating that they killed 3 random civilians, in order to gather more sympathy for the terrorists.

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  • Why is it "trying to defend the indefensible" when manipulation and lying by omission get called out as people here keep spamming "look the IDF killed 3 Palestinians" when it's actually 3 terrorists (one affiliated with Hamas, two with Islamic Jihad) that got killed?

    You're free to argue about the morality of assassinating three terrorists in a hospital. But it's scummy to leave out the affiliation to try to mislead and gather more sympathy for the terrorists that got assassinated.

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  • I agree I'd also have preferred if they used the more accurate word "terrorists" instead but yes, Hamas and Islamic Jihad confirmed it (source: AlJazeera article):

    Hamas confirmed that Jalamneh was one of its members. The Jenin Brigade, which includes a number of Palestinian armed resistance groups, said in a statement that two of the three men were members of Islamic Jihad.

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    Android Auto for sandboxed Google Play coming to GrapheneOS

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    Recapping Pixel software and Feature Drops in 2023

    9to5google.com /2023/12/28/pixel-feature-drop-2023/
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    Nothing Phone (2a) specs leak with 50MP camera, 1080p display

    9to5google.com /2023/12/26/nothing-phone-2a-specs-leak-with-50mp-camera-1080p-display/
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    OnePlus confirms it: The OnePlus 12R is coming to the US, EU

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    ICYMI: new Pixel Diagnostic App, repair manuals in English

    9to5google.com /2023/12/14/pixel-diagnostic-app-repair-manuals/
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    Opinion: "Google's new Gemini-powered tools on Pixel 8 Pro failed to impress me"

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    Report: Google working on ‘Pixie’ AI assistant for Pixel 9, discussed glasses with object recognition

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    New extensions you’ll love now available on Firefox for Android

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    Google Pixel 8's AI wallpapers appear to be coming to Samsung Galaxy in One UI 6.1

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    TIL that Firefox's offline translator can also be used on Android

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    Google Messages might let you edit texts after they’re sent

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    Pixel owners, what are your thoughts about GrapheneOS?

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    Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access after launch of service that brought iMessage to Android

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    Google Pixel Update + Feature Drop - Dec 2023

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    Google Photos reveals how Pixel 8 Pro 'Video Boost' feature will work including export and more

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    Android's underrated 'Reading mode' beats Pixel 8 ‘Read aloud’

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    Firefox for Android is getting 400 new browser extensions - and you can try some now

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    OnePlus 10 Pro now seeing stable Oxygen OS 14, based on Android 14

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    New GrapheneOS release brings hardware memory tagging to the Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro

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